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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Dipak Patel
Page Number: 2004 01 06
Extract Date: 1969-1974

Dipak Patel - Arusha School 1969-1974

My brother and I were students at Arusha School from 1969 to 1974. My brother (Kirit Patel) was six and I was eight years of age when our parents boarded us on to the East African Bus service chartered by the School in Iringa. From then on the next seven years were an adventure. Our home was in Tukuyu and the trip to School was a three day trip. Every three months we would go home for a month and then back again. Coming across your web sight took me back to the most interesting part of my life. I thank you for the information and look forward to hearing from more of my fellow students. My brother and I reside in the USA now. Thanks you

Dipak Patel

Extract ID: 4663

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Page Number: 2004 01 08
Extract Date: 1856

The Slug Map

Hello, I enjoyed reading your story on the famous "Slug Map". Actually, the one that is posted on your web page is a copy of the German map produced by Augustus Petermann's Geographische Mitteilungen (Gotha) in 1856, entitled:

"Eines Theils von Ost- u. Central-Afrika mit Angabe der wahrscheinlichen Lage u. Ausdehnung des Sees von Uniamesi, nebst Bezeichnung der Grenzen u. Wohnsitze der verschiedenen Vlker sowie der Caravanen-Strassen nach dem Innern, 1856"

The original map (which I happen to have) shows 2 small insets which compare Erhardt's detail with contemporary knowledge.

Sincerely yours,

Witold Nazarewicz

Extract ID: 4664

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: hyena2008
Page Number: 2004 01 08
Extract Date: 1970

Anon - Arusha School -1970

I was a student there at Arusha School. I left in 1970. I stumbled on a couple of photo's of the actual school and I wonder if there are any more pictures available. It would really be a treat to see my former school as possible.

(no name given!)

Extract ID: 4665

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Extract Author: George Brzostowski
Page Number: 2004 01 16
Extract Date: 1946

Tengeru

Dear Ryszard,

Thank you for a very interesting site on Tengeru. I was came across it casually while looking for something on Momela.

Tengeru is where I was born in 1946. My parents were among the displaced Poles. My mother was a sister in the hospital.

It is with some joy that I can say that while my mother is in Canberra, Australia, I found out about a lady living in Queanbeyan, just outside Canberra, who was also working in Tengeru. The two ladies are now very close friends!

My parents and I spent a few years on Momela that was owned by Mrs Trappe at the time. It was an exceptional place where Germans and Poles got on very well - indeed one of Mrs Trappe's married a Polish girl. There are two books on Momela. One is in German - "Am Fusse des Meru" and the other in English, called simply "Momela"

I will never forget living on the slopes of the foothills of Meru, and having the privilege of watching Kilimanjaro look enormous as the sun was setting behind us to the West.

That was back in the late 40s and perhaps early 50s. We then moved to Kongwa, near Dodoma, where my father was a pasture research scientist.

Later we moved to Canberra. Unfortunately my father passed away in 1976 while he was still working for the CSIRO. For my part, I am a Barrister.

Thank you once again for your site and work in compiling this interesting up-date on what happened at Tengeru.

Regards,

George Brzostowski

Extract ID: 4666

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Anon
Page Number: 2004 01 21
Extract Date: 2004 01 21

Is this jane goodalls email

hi

is this Jane goodalls email if so i luv to learn about you

i think its so cool that you study chimps i wouod love to do that to

well one thing that should be added is what you wear and transportation also education because a lot of people do projects and come to this web and it doesnt say any of that or maybe it does we just cant find it

well thank you very much and if you could email me back thatd be great bye

Extract ID: 4826

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Ronald Lwakatare
Page Number: 2004 01 27

Ronald Lwakatare - Arusha School -1977-1979

Greetings,

I saw this web site while surfing in the internet. My name is Ronald Lwakatare living in Dar es Salaam Tanzania. I wish to inform you that Arusha School is still there and there is a group of students-many of them who studied in the 1970's up to now- who want to form an alumni association for former students of Arusha School. Former students interested are located in various parts of the World - in Africa, Europe and the USA.

So we are holding our first meeting whose main agenda is to form an Alumni Association. The meeting is taking place in Dar es Salaam on Saturday 31st January 2004 at 4 p.m. We would very much be interested to be linked with former Arusha School students.

Regards

Ronald Lwakatare (Studied at Arusha School 1977-1979)

Extract ID: 4667

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Marko da Costa
Page Number: 2004 02 07
Extract Date: 07 FEB 2004

The Search For Virgo - ONE RIGHT TUSC GRANNY LELY !

Hi,

love TO YOU & your site & VIRGO & FAMILY !

I ALSO only came across it due to watching The Search For Virgo, ONLY TODAY SAT. 12 AM , 07.FEB.2004 ON PORTUGUESE SIC TV, and ALSO decided, to do a search on Saba Douglas- Hamilton. I AM sad Virgo was not found, but I"m ALSO sure she lived a very happy life.

Saba YOU ARE just incredible & FACINATING , I wish YOU GOT to see Virgo one more .

I wish YOU Saba all HAPPINESS, and it makes me happy TOO, to know , that gods creatures, have such a caring, and loving person like ANGEL Saba, who , when YOU come in contact, with animals, ONE SENSES THE PUREST OF pure love and care.

All the BESTEST AND BEASTEST . LOVE MARKO

- ! IMPORTANT NOTE TO GIULIA ! (JUST HAVING READ GIULIAīS MAIL OF 26/APRIL/2003, AND SUBSCRIBING IT COMPLETELY, FIRST BECAUSE I COULDNīT DESCRIBE BETTER AND SECOND TO OPTIMIZE MY COMUNICATION TIME !!!!!!!) SORRY GIULIA FOR THE PELAGIO , BUT I AM SURE YOU MUST BE A MARVELOUS PERSON ALSO.)

Extract ID: 4691

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Extract Author: Anoop nathwani
Page Number: 2004 02 13
Extract Date: 13 Feb 2004

A lot of memories - Anoop Nathwani

Hello sir/madam

To whom it may concern

Wow!!!...what can I say about the site not that I know a lot about web sites and stuff

But it was really nice going through the site especially on the arusha school -wow - what can i say

It did bring a lot of memories to me and few tears too

Please do keep up the good job -

Yes I will go through the site more in depth but for time being I think I could not wait to write to you

So there you are

Anoop Nathwani

Extract ID: 4690

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Susan Ross
Page Number: 2004 02 19

Barefoot Across the Serengeti

Great informative website! I was in Tanzania last year and Read "Barefoor Across the Serengeti" while there. I'd like to order "Beating Around the Bush" by David Read. Can you tell me how to do this? Thank you.

Susan Ross

David Read now has his own web site

http://www.serengetimasai.com/index.html

On the books page you will find information about where to find his books.

You donít say what country you are in, so if you have problems where you are, I suggest you contact David direct at the email on the web page.

Extract ID: 4702

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Mark Morgan Mark Morgan
Page Number: 2004 02 21
Extract Date: 1947-1955

Bill Morgan was a master at the school

I have just come across this interesting site, while gathering information for a return visit to Arusha later in the Year.

I was very pleased to read the history of Arusha School as my farther, Bill Morgan was a master at the school from about 1947-1955 (I think those dates are right) He was teaching there before the war and then returned after.

I have three brothers we where all born in Arusha and later moved with dad when he went to Oyester-Bay School in Dar, and then later to Mbeya. My elder brother was then a boarder at Arusha before we all where sent to school in the uk.

It was good to see photos of Bryn Jones,a great family friend ( he was kind enough to marry both my self and both of my brothers) he sadly died several years ago, but my mother still keep in contact with his widow.

Seeing the photo of the late Princess Margaret's visit to the school. I was actually in the photo( the top of my head) we have a copy in the family album, and the photo of my farther being presented had pride of place on my grandmothers T.V

We have many photos of the school, and activites going on, which you would be quite welcome to to put on the site.

I am looking forward to my visit in September but hope that the School and Town have not changed to much, but it is nearly 50 years since I was last there.

Will give the site address to my brothers so they can have a look

Mark Morgan

Thanks for your feedback and interesting email. Sorry for the delay in replying.

I received, at about the same time, an email from Andrew Hannah, at the school from 1957-60, although he had brothers there before him, and he lists Morgan as one of the teachers he remembers. Iíll put his, and your, emails up on the web site at the next update.

I think I was just out of the shot of Princess M - my duty was to hold the door open for her as she came in. Iíve got lots of other stuff about her visit, which I havenít yet had time to publish on the site.

But if you have photos and other anecdotes, Iíd welcome copies for inclusion.

You will greatly enjoy revisiting Arusha. Itís changed much in the last ten years or so since Iíve been going back. From being a shabby backwater, itís now a vibrant small town, and slowly cleaning itself up. However, flying over it can be horrific in that it reveals a huge shanty town, just as poor as any slum in Nairobi or Johannesburg, but totally hidden from the main tourist throughways.

I called in on the school last May, and found one teacher very happy to show me round (and the tortoise is still there). The buildings are nearly all the same. The roofs have reverted from tiles to bati sheets. The dining hall still has the same long tables and sideboards, and the trophy boards on the wall. But whereas there were less then 300 pupils in the 50ís there are now 1200.

The headmaster was very busy, but pleased to see me (I think).

Do tell me more about your trip - have you allowed time to explore Arusha, and a guide to take you round. Most of them just want to get out of town as fast as possible and get you out to see the game. Where will you be staying?

Apart from the obvious risks, I felt I could walk around the main part of the town with my eyeís shut. All the road layouts are still the same, and many of the buildings are unchanged. Youíll be going round saying, Ah, I remember that.

Back in 1994 we found the old maternity ward in the Arusha Hospital where my brother was born - and maybe you.

The photo I took of it (http://www.ntz.info/gen/n00025.html#04073 ) appeared on the BBC web site recently - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3094543.stm but they claimed that it was obtained from a press agency in Dar es Salaam!

I could go on . . .

Hope to hear more from you.

 

Extract ID: 4703

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Tim Belknap
Page Number: 2004 02 24
Extract Date: 1934

research involving Alec "Fatty" Pearson

Congratulations on your wonderful site, which befits its subject, a wonderful part of the world.

My name is Tim Belknap I am an American journalist and could use a hand in some research involving Alec "Fatty" Pearson, the real pilot who served as the basis of the fictional pilot with a key role in Ernest Hemingway's famous short story "The Snows of Kilimanjaro." So far, I have accumulated quite a bit of information about Mr. Pearson's distinguished record in World War II, which he did not survive. However, his East Africa days are somewhat of a mystery, and I have virtually no biographical information such as whether he was married, date and place of birth. I know he was a chief pilot for Wilson Airways, had the appropriate ratings to fly up to Europe in multi-engined aircraft, did a lot of safari work and hence was a good friend of such leading hunters of the time as Bror Blixen and Philip Percival. The plane in 1934 that he flew the ailing Hemingway to Arusha and then to Nairobi was a Puss Moth.

Other than that, I know little except what I found in one of Bror Blixen's published letters and a passing reference in a Hemingway biography. Any help you or your site readers could give me would be most appreciated. Any tidbit would be of value about this man who, as far as I know, has never been the subject of a published profile - by all accounts he was a terrific guy and deserves his minor place in literary history.

By the way, I grew up in Kenya in the '50s and '60s, went to Kaptagat School upcountry, went on hunting (Block 67) and photo safaris in southern Kenya/northern Tanzania, later became a reporter in America, covered Rhodesia, South Africa and Namibia/Angola. I now live in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York.

What a well-organized, fascinating site. Please keep it up.

Regards,

Tim

Thanks for your kind comments and information/request.

I don't think I've come across Mr Pearson, but I shall certainly keep an eye out.

Obviously I've limited my focus to Northern Tanzania, and I suspect that he operated from Kenya.

Where to turn for more information. I suspect that you'll have to turn to people who may know, and to archives.

There's a man called Hans-Georg Michna who contributes a lot to news groups such as rec.travel.africa and who has a web site with details of his trip last year to Kenya. He stayed at the Aero Club of East Africa, at Wilson Airport, and is into flying, so may well have some useful ideas and contacts. http://www.michna.com/kenya2003/ There's probably some kind of archive at the club itself.

Errol Trzebinski who wrote about Lord Errol lives in Kenya and is into history of that time. Contact perhaps through the publishers.

Michael Palin (eg Python, now TV travel presenter) did a film and book about Hemmingway, including his time in Africa. Maybe some references there. Brief starter references on my web site http://www.ntz.info/gen/n00900.html

For Hunting History of the times, the best source I have is Brian Herne http://www.ntz.info/gen/b00623.html . Again you would have to track him down, and see what he may have in his archives.

Long shot is to write to Peter Ayre, who sells old Africana Books, and who also keeps a database of names of people who have lived in Kenya. http://www.ntz.info/pages/bookshops.html

Good luck.

If you do come across any thing relevant, especially to Hemmingway in Tanzania, do please remember me.

Thank you so much for your help and tips. It's funny, I had already contacted the Aero Club, and its president, Harro Trempenau, is asking around about Pearson on my behalf. The other tips I will run down - I have Brian Herne's book and it is a wealth of information on people I vaguely knew through my parents in Kenya. I'll try to contact him.

I believe you are right about Fatty Pearson operating from Kenya, probably from the old Nairobi Aerodrome. Wilson Airways was a Kenya outfit. But he certainly knew how to find his way around the Serengeti.

I will certainly send you a clip of the final piece. What's interesting so far is the discovery that "The Green Hills of Africa" is not very chronological, nor really the true account Hemingway promises in the preface. By that, I mean his dysentary attack and break from the safari is pretty much edited out, although he alludes once or twice as having been sick in Nairobi. He was sick as a dog the first two weeks of hunting, including when he shot two lions. To me, that makes it all the more interesting, but I guess he didn't want to seem like a whiner.

While the biographers of Hemingway have been helpful on this score, using his letters and Pauline's diary for the true sequence, there are lapses in the accuracy of the biographies. Two of them describe Pearson's aircraft as a biplane, when in fact the Puss Moth was a state-of-the-art closed-cabin monoplane. People tend to think of Africa between the wars as some sort of backwater, but it wasn't in terms of the safari business. Common sense dictated that with wealthy clients and roadless tracts, you used the best equipment money could buy - whether it was GM drivetrains for your safari wagon or Puss Moths for aircraft or Holland and Holland double rifles for dangerous game. Movies like the dreadful (in terms of accuracy, in the opinion of someone who grew up in Kenya) "Out of Africa" and the much-better "The English Patient" evoke a derring-do, open-cockpit spirit that I don't feel was there, at least not by the '30s. Africa flying threw up enough challenges without rickety equipment.

I bought a privately printed account of George Eastman's 1927 safari with Philip Percival and Safariland Ltd. (the same outfit Hemingway used) at a used book store outside Kodak company town Rochester, N.Y., and that's why I'm fairly confident to express the opinions above on how good the safari equipment generally was at the time. Considering who Eastman was, and that he was accompanied by Martin and Osa Johnson, it's not surprising that the photos in this book are superb.

Any tidbits of information your readers can come up with on Fatty would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again, Tim

Extract ID: 4704

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Wendell Kam
Page Number: 2004 02 26
Extract Date: 1958

Watson T. Yoshimoto

Dear Sir:

Enjoyed your website and the historical information.

I am currently looking for documentation on Watson T. Yoshimoto who hunted with John Lawrence (1958, 1960) and William M. Jenvy (1965) of White Hunters Ltd. If you have any information on Mr. Lawrence and/or Mr. Jenvy I would appreciate you passing it to me. Specifically, I need documentation (export permits no.) on the elephants that Mr. Yoshimoto collected during his safaris.

Mahalo (Thank you) for your consideration of this request. Please contact me if you need further information.

Aloha,

Wendell Kam

W. T. Yoshimoto Foundation

Thanks for your inquiry, but I am sorry that I am not able to help. Just about all the information I have is published on the web site.

Most of the information about hunting was sourced from Brian Herneís book

Maybe he would be better placed to help you, but Iím afraid I have no contact information for him, other than the clues you can pick up from the book.

Thank you for your response. I will try to track down Mr. Herne.

Please keep me in mind should you come across any pertinent information in the future.

Mahalo and Aloha,

Wendell

Extract ID: 4846

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Shreela Debi
Page Number: 2004 02 27
Extract Date: 1971-72

Shreela Debi - Arusha School 1971-72

Dear Mr. Nettelbeck,

I was a student of Arusha School in 1971-72 , years that are precious. I wish I could create a similar environment for my daughter.

I leaned that you were in India for some time. I live in Delhi now after many years in England. I loved East Africa.

I have been trying to get in touch with others who were in the school at the time, with not much success. Age makes for much nostalgia.

Christmas at the school was beautiful. I was in the choir and it was magic to walk in with lighted candles.

You were so much an essential presence.

'Hope you and your family are well. I have fond memories of them too.

Warm Regards

Shreela

Extract ID: 4825

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Andy Hannah
Page Number: 2004 02 29
Extract Date: 1957 - 60

Andy Hannah - Arusha School - 1957 - 60

Thankyou very much for opening this site.

You are very welcome to publish all of the below.

I remember Martin, Mary, and Peter Davis quite well. I was in the year above Peter and below Mary. I remember dancing with Mary!!!

Name: Andy Hannah

Years at Arusha: 1957 - 60

Older brothers Lister, Tim, Dave, were also there before me.

Masters: Morgan, Hampshire, BL Jones, HA Jones, Lanky Johnston. Pop Hazel.

Matrons: Mrs Fisher (David Read's terrfying mother) (head matron), Mrs Birchman, Miss Balfour, Miss De Beer (also terrifying), Miss Bear, Miss Pollack, Miss Randall, Miss Morrell, Mrs Evans.

Teachers: Miss Ingles (gentle and fair), Miss Monroe (loud voice), Miss Elizabeth Gray (lots of fun), Miss Jenkins (Gypsy), Miss Lundy (spunk).

Friends: Peter Bird, Christopher Ronaldson, Roger Haggerty, Itzak Abramovici, Stewart Hammond, Ian Steer, Daniel Marjocki, David Spoors, Michael Carter, George Legnani, Adrian Van Schoor, William Power, Brenda Ulliat, Henrietta Shannahan, Pauline Shannahan, Yvonne Karafiat, Susan Hunt, Nida Mogelnikskii, and others (sorry if I've left anyone out).

(Sorry if I've spelt anyone's name wrong)

Comments:

Looking back, I think that Hampshire ran a pretty tight ship. I suspect that he also knew who the nice teachers were and who the not so nice, and arranged things so that we all had our fair share of both.

However, my principal memories are negative:

It was like a jail, and we were regimented a lot of the time.

There was always an anxiety that I'd do something wrong and get the tacky (or HA Jones' "persuader"). I didn't get punished that often, but half the time it was for an innocent absent-minded mistake.

My time in standard 3 was particularly unhappy because I was landed with a sociopathic dorm-leader.

Some of the female teachers went out of their way to make us feel small.

I think the most positive aspect was the friendships formed.

I would be delighted to get in contact with any of the above.

I live in Melbourne, Australia. I am married and have 4 kids (2 eldest have left home).

Great to hear from you, and thanks for your memories which I shall add to the web site when I next do an update.

You mention Mrs Fisher (David Read's terrfying mother)! I must tell that to David Read. I met him last October, and hope to see him again when I go back to Arusha at the end of May.

Your surname sent me back to my parentís archives, and Iíve found one slide of the Ball family, plus Timothy Hannah standing in the garden. Iím not sure if you have worked it out from the web site, that my father was the rector of Christ Church Arusha from 1953-57, and I seem to remember that we had various boys to tea on Sunday afternoons. Iíve been looking, but so far havenít had enough to time find anything more, but I seem to remember that your fatherís names was Wells or Welsley.

I really need to go back to my fathers diaries to check my memories, and I could well be confusing you all with another family. But I seem to remember also that your father was in London in the early 60ís and he took me to a rally in Methodist Central Hall, Westminster at which Dr Hastings Banda was speaking.

My slide scanner is on loan at the moment, but when I can Iíll see if I can send you a copy of Timothyís picture and any other pictures I might find in the meantime.

Iíve also got a couple of copies of the Arusha School Magazine, and see that in 1955 Timothy Hannah won a Standard I Form Prize!

Thank-you for your reply.

By the time I arrived at Arusha School, your family had left the vicarage, but I get the impression that both Tim and Dave spent a fair time at your house. In fact, I think it was your Mum who introduced meringues to our family - via Tim who insisted on our Mum trying to make them.

Yes, Dad's name was Wellesley, and he was working at the time as a medical missionary in Mvumi, near Dodoma.

Extract ID: 4975

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Sonia Mayhew
Page Number: 2004 03 01

My Grandmother Gladys Rydon

My daughter Venetia Mayhew has discovered her great grandmother on the internet and we are all intrigued. I should love to get in touch with Alison Aitken and David.

I am the daughter of Gladys Rydon's daughter Pamela. She married my father Roddy Sword in Arusha Church in 1938. He was in Arusha with the 6 KAR. I spent the years 1956 - early 1958 out in that part of the world when I left school and spent a lot of time with my grandmother, living with her at lake Duluti and we travelled to South Africa together and a few years later back to Australia.

Her son Arthur Rydon is still alive living in Sussex. Fur would have flown if Gladys and Margot had known they were being described as sisters! I have some photos including one of the buffalo that killed David Rydon (in 1968 I think) - certainly not in 64. he was killed on his property near Ngurdoto Crater. it wasn't a national park I don't think then.

My grandmother's friend from Mars spelt his name Qel and he was from the 72nd Golden Planet Saturn flotilla. This came out in an interview she did when we were in South Africa. We travelled by sea on the Lloyd Trestino line and on reaching Durban on the return journey, some friends boarded with a newspaper like the Evening Standard and

the headlines were "SPACESHIPS FROM 600 PLANETS PATROLLING EARTH TO AVERT NEW WAR. Tanganyika woman claims dealings with Commander from Saturn ......"

I have no memories of my mother Pamela who disappeared out of my life when I was about two years old but knew David of course and Arthur well. Arthur has a son Godfrey and grand children and great children. Harold Rydon built

and owned the Safari House Hotel. His property was Ngare Sera at Usa River which is now a game lodge owned by Mike Leach. My husband and I stayed there on a recent visit in 2001 and visited Duluti also, the first time I had been back since my grandmother's death in 1964, exactly 40 years ago.

I hope to hear from you.

Sonia Mayhew (nee Sword)

Extract ID: 4845

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Helmut Epp
Page Number: 2004 03 02

Researching George & Lory Frame

I wonder if you have come across any other books or articles by George & Lory Frame.

I have the one they published on cheetahs & hunting dogs.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Helmut

Extract ID: 4867

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Sandro Legnani
Page Number: 2004 03 06
Extract Date: 1958-1962

Sandro Legnani - Arusha School 1958-1962

Dear Madams and Sirs,

my name is Sandro Legnani, and I'd like to enter your feedback as an old Arusha primary school student. I was born in Dar-Es-Salaam in 1951 and with my travelled around the country in several sisal estates, where my father was a chief engineer.

I attended Arusha school from april 1958 till december 1962. I remeber Mr. Hamshere as my headmaster (even his cane) and Mr. Jones was one of my teachers together with Miss Jenkins. I climbed Mount Meru in 1962 with other 9 or 10 students.

My memories are coming back, I'm excited in finding a piece of my history. Let me dig in my memories and recollect them. I left the country, for Italy, in 1968 after my father got seriously ill and never since then returned. Even the English language is not so good now I'm always speaking Italian.

I'll write again and with the help of my brother George (in Arusha from 1956 to 1960 then went to Iringa) we will find some photos of the school and of Arusha and scan them for you.

Bye for now

Sandro

Extract ID: 4860

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Dick Ploeg
Page Number: 2004 03 09
Extract Date: 1928

Margot Rydon

Dear David(?),

I noticed your web pages on Arusha, Tanzania and the issue of Margot Rydon being Captain Harold Rydon's second wife.

According to my information Margot Rydon was German by birth and a Countess of Einsiedel.

My interest in her is related to my research into women racing drivers and in particular those driving Bugatti cars. Margot Einsiedel was one of them and I know she married to a Mr. Rydon and lived in Arusha, Tanzania afterwards. More than likely we are looking at the same person here.

Just for your information, the below is a resume of her Bugatti driving career, from my file on her:

<1928 season. This 37A is entered in several events starting with the Targa Florio of 6 May 1928. In this event Countess Einsiedel finished a commendable 12th and her Bugatti had the race number "22". Shortly after this she participated in two further Italian races. In the May 1928 Coppa Etna she had to retire with bearing trouble, while in the June 10, 1928 Premio Reale race in Rome, there was a crash on lap 25. Back in Germany she entered for the German GP to be held at the Nurburgring on 15 July 1928 as a sports car race. In this event she ran her Bugatti in the 750-1500cc category, but retired with bearing trouble after some earlier tyre troubles. Because of her marriage in 1929 to an Mr. Rydon, she does not seem to have raced the T37A in the 1929 season.>>

Needless to say, that I would be much interested into any further information that you may have about her. In particular I would be interested to know how she may have met this Captain Harold Rydon, while she was still in Germany.

Best regards,

Dick Ploeg

Extract ID: 4843

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Fredrick Salukele
Page Number: 2004 03 09
Extract Date: 1980-1986

Fredrick Salukele - Arusha School 1980-1986

1980-1986 Arusha School Alumni

I am so glad to see that Arusha School is still in so many people's hearts and minds.

I came across the website in general surfing.

I was at Arusha School from 1980 to 1986 as a student and 1974 todate (2004) as a resident.

I am still at Arusha School because one of my parents is a teacher there. I was born in 1974 while my mother (Miss B. Ngowi) was a teacher and still is (probably the longest serving teacher now). However, right now I am working in Dar es Salaam as a Tutorial Assistant at University College of Lands and Architectural Studies (UCLAS) but I often go to Arusha School at least twice a year.

Regards,

Fredrick Salukele

Extract ID: 4835

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Linda Costa
Page Number: 2004 03 14
Extract Date: 1920's

researching Sydney Waller

I am researching an early White Hunter in Kenya - his name was Sydney Waller and he was hunting in the late 1920's.

I can find no mention of him in this book, could you direct me to the author please?

Many thanks, Linda Costa

Like you, I have a copy of the book, but no special contact with the Brian Herne.

I suggest you start by contacting the publishers of the book.

Sorry that I cannot be of more help.

David, sorry I troubled you, I was not really quite sure who I was sending the message to! I donít have a copy of the book, I found it by surfing the net. Donít suppose you could check the index for me? Just to see if there is any mention of A Sydney Waller, who was hunting around 1928 in Kenya. He lived in Nairobi.

Linda - no problem. Presume you are in Australia?

Three mentions, p132, 167n, 175 +n

P132 Waller ("a first class pioneer hunter") was back up to Alan Black, who was selected by Finch-Hatton to look after the Duke of Gloucester on a Royal Safari in 1928.

P167 describes the creation of EAPHA (East African Professional Hunterís Association) at a meeting in the Norfolk Hotel on April 12 1934. Footnote lists those present, including Waller.

P175 Describes a company called Safariland, which arose from the ashes of its predecessor Newland and Tarlton, which had been dissolved in 1919. Waller is amongst those "inherited" by Safariland.

Footnote lists hunters employed between 1921 and 1938, including Waller.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you want to scan in fuller extracts.

Dear David, thank you very much indeed for the information you provided. Yes, I live in Australia, but only for the last two years. We used to live in Zimbabwe. I breed Rhodesian Ridgebacks, and have been quite involved with the breed for many years now. We brought some of our dogs with us when we came here.

I am writing a book on some of the early breeders and owners of Ridgebacks. The first Ridgebacks to go to Kenya were a pack of six who went to Waller - he bought them from Bulawayo breeders in the then Southern Rhodesia. I suspect they would have faded into obscurity, except for the fact that one of his English clients, Mrs Edmond Foljambe, bought two from him and sent them to England - the first to go there. She showed them at Cruft's dog show, and bred them for a number of years. Her nephew has been most helpful in supplying me with information about the dogs.

I hadn't been able to find any other information about Waller - I do know he went to UK, as there is a letter in the Club files from his wife, written from England, mentioning that she wants to start a Club for Ridgebacks.

I was surfing the net seeing if I could track him down, just to see if he did really exist! With your help, this is now established. Thank you very much for your assistance, I will include the notes in my profile on Waller, but I dont need anything further - but it was very kind of you to offer to do that.

Do you live in Africa?

With very kind regards,

Linda Costa

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Christa Von Mutius
Page Number: 2004 03 14

Ben Benbow

having looked at your web site I am very keen to trace Ben Benbow or any one who might know his where-abouts.

My name is Christa von Mutius sister of Bertie of Momella Lodge and I'm interested to contact friends from life in Tanzania.

Many thanks for your help

Christa

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Marie-anna Pate
Page Number: 2004 03 17

Researching Sir Claude Hollis

My name is Marie-Anna Pate. I recently visited your website searching for books written by my Great GrandfatherÖSir Claude HollisÖ.you have one of his books listed 'The Maasi: Their language and folklore". It was published by Clarendon Press oxford and is listed in the anthropology section. If you could please tell me where I could purchase this book, I would be very greatful

thankyou

Mrs Marie-anna Pate

Coincidently, last week I found a copy of "Masai, Myths, Tales and Riddles", also by your Great Grandfather. I bought it in the Pitt-Rivers Museum in Oxford, England.

"This Dover edition, first published in 2003, is a new selection from The Masai: Their Language and Folklore, published by Oxford, at the Clarendon Press, London, in 1905. We have left out the Masai-language samples, have Americanized the English, have slightly reworked two of the proverbs to make them understandable, and have translated into English one passage the author wrote in Latin."

You donít say which country you are from, but you can find this book on the publishers web site

http://store.doverpublications.com/0486431991.html

And Amazon UK currently have 5 in stock (at half the price I paid!)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486431991/qid=1079517192/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_0_2/026-2344439-7843607

As for the original title, have you tried ABE Books?

Http://www.abebooks.com/

A search finds two copies (both in the UK) but very expensive (just under $400)

Take care to get the title right, especially the spelling of Masai.

Ie The Masai, Their Language and Folklore

I canít find any reference to the 1960 edition by the Negro University Press, although itís the Amazon UK database

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0836988108/ref=sr_aps_books_1_2/026-2344439-7843607

Here they give an ISBN for the title, (0836988108 ) and a Google search on this leads to Bookfinders

http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/Masai-Their_Language_and_Folklore/0836988108/

But again, a listing but no copies currently for sale

 

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: A M Hausheer-Hiltpold
Page Number: 2004 03 23
Extract Date: 2004 03 23

Rolf von Trappe

I am looking for the address/e-mail of Rolf von Trappe's sons as I have an important message for them regarding their father.

Thanks for your enquiry.

I'm sorry, but I have no further information to help you contact the sons of Rolf von Trappe.

 

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Becky Heslin
Page Number: 2004 04 01
Extract Date: 1992

Researching Gabriel Songa

Huntersí fire signals Hadzabe doom

Bwire, Nyamanoko

2003 March 29

Publisher: Arusha Times

Edition: 263

I was wondering if Gabriel Songa is an old friend of mine who was a student in Boulder Colorado at the Economics Institute in 1991, and who went to Mississippi State University in Agribusiness in 1992. My name is Becky Heslin. From Colorado USA

Dear Becky

Personally I have no idea if the Gabriel Songa, DC Mbulu, was a student in Colorado.

However, when I look at http://www.agecon.msstate.edu/Agribusiness/alumni.php

I see a mention of "Gabriel Songa, August 1992, Department of Food Industries, Congo"

I guess if he came from the Congo, it is unlikely that he moved to Mbulu - but it's possible. I going to Tanzania at the end of May, so I shall try to remember to ask and see if anyone knows Mzee Songa.

Were you an Alumni of the same year - I could only see a Becky Knight?

No I am not an alumnus. I was a personal friend of a Gabriel Songa and another man from the Congo named Gregoire Bamvi. I helped them learn to converse in English. They also helped me with my French. It is possible that neither man returned to the Congo for political and personal reasons. I have been trying to look up either one through internet searches. I have not seen them for over ten years. I was thinking by now maybe I could find either one of them. Thanks David for your help. Becky W.

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Ed Carter
Page Number: 2004 04 06

film print of Serengeti Shall not Die

I am the Documentary Curator of the Motion Picture Academy, and am looking

for a film print of Serengeti Shall not die. Any ideas where I might locate

one?

Thanks very much,

Ed Carter

I had a similar enquiry last year from someone looking for an English Language video of the film (he had found it in German).

At the time my best suggestion was to contact Dr. Markus Borner,, who lives out in the Serengeti and represents the Frankfurt Zoological Society. I can't find a specific email address for him, but you could try the enquiry form on the Serengeti web site

and there's an address at the end of this page

More recently I saw mention of a German project to shoot a film about Grzmick. Some details here

Maybe there are some contacts there that could help you more.

Have you tried contacting any of the people involved in the IMAX Serengeti Film. Some of their researchers must have looked at the Grzmick film (I hope).

Another suggestion is to contact the BBC Natural History Unit in Bristol - it's full of knowledgeable people.

NHU, BBC Whiteladies Road Bristol BS8 2LR

+44 117 973 2211 Switch board

And a final suggestion is to contact http://www.wildlife-film.com/

They do a monthly newsletter which often has appeals from people looking for specific current or historical footage.

Hope this is of some help.

Let me know if you do track down a print.

 

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Richard Dawtrey
Page Number: 2004 04 15
Extract Date: 1960 -1966

Richard Dawtrey - Arusha School 1960 -1966 ish

Have found the site on Arusha school

Found a name I know would like to contact Sarah Holland

Can my address be forward to her ?

Iím sending Sarah a bcc of this email, and will leave it to her to contact you.

Thanks for mail about Sarah, she has been in contact, which is great

I should give you some things I remember about school. 1960 -1966 ish

Myself and my brother Philip lived in Mbeya in the 60's and travelled up to school in an old EA bus which took

three days. There were about 6 of us including Louisa Sossi and her brother, Najib Kahn and others I can't

recall just now. On one trip the bus left the road and rolled over and a photo has been attached, I'm the one

leading the group ot the back of the bus.

There are things I remember about school like having to clean shoes on the grass in the quad at weekends.

The big picture in the dining room and that food, I seem to remember dark brown minced beef on toast or was the Mbeya School where I also went.

I read something about tunnels in the river bank which we used to do as well it must have been a trend at school.

Remember making dams in the river as well.

I'm not sure but a coulpe of some of us making a big hole outside the bathroom window on the playing field side

to find spent bullets and cases, goodness knows where thay came from, I still have them somewhere.

The bell made from a railway track, the giant tortoise, which I believe is still alive.

Avocado pears that were eaten to keep the strengh up due to the poor food.

I seem to remember doing nativity plays on the cricket field or was that some other school in africa?

I used to come up from Tanga later in my school life and and asian chap used to come to Moshi to collect

us in a tatty old Ford van which used to backfire all the time.

Climbing up Meru and trips into local game parks

Well happy days but I'm not sure I felt that at the time

Richard Dawtrey

South House Arusha School

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Richard Dawtrey
Page Number: 2004 04 15a
Extract Date: 1960's

The bus left the road

Myself and my brother Philip lived in Mbeya in the 60's and travelled up to school in an old EA bus which took

three days. There were about 6 of us including Louisa Sossi and her brother, Najib Kahn and others I can't

recall just now. On one trip the bus left the road and rolled over and a photo has been attached, I'm the one

leading the group ot the back of the bus.

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Maureen Claridge
Page Number: 2004 04 16
Extract Date: 1940's

My folks were in Tanganyika

Please talk to me. My folks were in Tanganyika from the early 1940's. My Mum kept a diary from 1945 - and tonight on the Intenet I I see my sister's name (Iringa magazine) and the name of a lady (my Mum knew in 1945) - Lady Lead - 17 years later she is one of the main "manne" in Iringa School.

Please respond. My Mum died on 26th March 2004 (84 years), and as we all know - WHY DID WE NOT ASK QUESTIONS?

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Jim Aitkenhead
Page Number: 2004 04 16

Jim Aitkenhead - Arusha School

I am a former pupil of Arusha School. This email is to enquire whether or not you are still updating your Arusha School Alumni.

I discovered your web site just the other day and would be keen to contribute if you are still maintaining this site. I am in the photograph posted in your site, though I cannot be certain exactly where I am in the picture but a little research will be required as we have the same photo in our archives.

Thanks for your email. Yes I am still maintaining the site, although sometimes itís an uphill struggle finding the time to do it. My database is off-line, and it takes a fair while to upload complete revisions to the site. I plan one day to convert it to an on-line database where new entries will appear straight away.

However, I hope to do an update at the beginning of May, so do please send any information, memories and photos that you may have (plus the dates of when you were at Arusha School) and I can then include them.

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Zuzett Daly
Page Number: 2004 04 17
Extract Date: 17 April 2004

About the wakamba

Hello I would like to know what does the word Wakamba means,where can I find some pictures about it or any thing that you can tell me about the Wakamba peoples.I hope you can help me with this.Thank you!!

Thanks for your email and your question. Unfortunately Iím not going to be much help.

The Wakamba are a tribe from Kenya - just outside the scope of my website which focuses on Northern Tanzania.

However, a search on Google finds this article which will give you a little more information:

If you search for Wakamaba and Kenya, or Wakamba and Tanzania, you will eliminated a lot of the unhelpful links.

Thank you so much for your help,I'm really happy that finally I find some information.I also visit your site and I think is great,congratulation!! I would like to apologize about my English I know is not so good I'm just learning.Thanks once more

Zuzett Daly

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: GŠbor PaŠl
Page Number: 2004 04 21

Laetoli footprints

I would like ask for permission to use the Laetoli-Footprints-Picture for a web documentary on the evolution of the human body. The documentary will be published on the websites of the SWR, which is the Public Broadcast for South West Germany. Copyright acknowledgements are given.

Looking forward to hearing from you

GŠbor PaŠl

SWR Baden-Baden

I presume you mean this picture: http://www.ntz.info/gen/b00128.html#03283

In which case the copyright is not mine - in fact you will see from the link that I have copied the image (without permission, but with attribution) from Johanson, Donald C and Edey, Maitland A. Lucy: The Beginnings of Humankind 1981

Follow the link above the image, and you will see the full details of the source.

If you go to the publisher you may be able to get a better quality image than the low res scan which I have included.

But feel free to use the scanned image from my site, but obviously respect the original source.

If it's a different image you have found, use a similar method to find the source - I've never managed to get to Laetoli, so don't have any of my own images of the footprints.

 

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Allen Moore
Page Number: 2004 04 27
Extract Date: 1974-1979

Allen Moore - Arusha School - 1974-1979

Dear David,

Thanks for such a wonderful website. I have, during periods of my life, experienced great home sickness for Arusha (now being one of those times). I was only there from sometime around 1974 to 1979 (I would have been age 3-8) and I have lived a number of places since then. But I guess in my heart I consider Arusha home. We lived in a big two story colonial house across the street from the Gymkata club on Churchhill Road. Visiting is not an option for me right now so I turn to the internet to fill the homesickness looking for pictures and information about "home". I have spent quite a bit of time reading through the information you have compiled. It has helped me to remember things long forgotten about my childhood. And I have learned a great deal about a town of which I was woefully ignorant when I lived there.

I attended Arusha school while in Arusha. I can't say that I remember much of it (the tortise is about all really). I can't even remember any of the folks I attended school with or my teachers. But I have a sense of fondness when I think of it so it must have been a good experience for me. I actually have more distinct memories of the nursery school I went to (On Churchhill Road I believe) than I do of Arusha school.

My parents have a large collection of photographs from the area. My brother and I are planning on scanning them and creating a digital library for posterity. When we get it done I will see if I have any particularly interesting ones that might be of value to your collection.

Allen Moore

Plano TX, USA

Thanks for your kind comments about the web site. Itís good to seeing it being appreciated by a growing number of people that have associations with Arusha, and especially the school.

I just wish I had more time to spend on it, and keep it up to date. In due course I hope to learn how to update it in real time, instead of having to regenerate it, and upload the complete web site. And then there are still lots more photos Iíd like to add. And maybe set up a bulletin board so you can post comments on-line.

If you do manage to scan in any photos, do please remember the web site. Iím sure there will be many who will be interested in sharing them with you.

I would like to volunteer my services to help you with the web site. I have a great deal of experience with web technology and would like to be able to contribute to your project. Even if it is simply helping to determine what technologies would be best to accomplish what you want. Like you, I have a full time job and a family to take care of but I can certianly find some time to help. Please let me know if there is something I can do.

Thanks for your great offer.

At the moment I use an Access Database, and over the years Iíve developed Vbasic code to generate all the HTML pages from the Database.

The host I use doesnít support windows/Access, and anyway Iím not sure that Access is the best solution for an on-line database. Iíve recently upgraded to a hosting package which supports MySQL.

So, my intention is to migrate to a MySQL database, and write PHP code to generate the pages dynamically.

For a bulletin board, I would use a public domain PHP solution. Iíve seen many I donít like, but havenít yet researched an optimal solution. Ideas here would be welcome.

I have a reasonable understanding of web technologies - nearly all self taught, but done so with a background of over 30 years in the IT business. Iím currently supporting about 24 web sites which I have developed for clients and friends. My clients are nearly all African Safari operators, or Lodges, and the reason for choosing this niche market was to give me the opportunity to go and visit - some 14 trips to Africa in the last 4 years. If only I could resist taking on new work, then Iíd find more time for the nTZ project!

Iíve started learning PHP in the last few months, and am getting ready to tackle MySQL - I have a client who asking me to convert a small Access database, so it will be good preparation for the big one.

If you have time, any comments you have on the layout of the web site, and the ease of use would be very welcome. Even if I canít easily change now, I can bear it in mind for the dynamic project.

Otherwise, I think the best contribution will be content. Do get scanning those photos!!

By the way, did you find my map of Arusha which I think I drew when I was about 10 years old. Churchhill Road clearly marked, and the Gymkhana Club And maybe your house, although I donít think the buildings represent actual plots. We drove round that loop some 10 years ago, and last year I walked across the playing field (shown in green and labeled 1 on my map). It seemed much smaller than my memories of it as a kid.

http://www.ntz.info/picturesbig/p03935-arusha1956.jpg

I had fun last year visiting the International School in Arusha, and talking to a class of 10 year olds who were doing a "Map Project", and showing them this map and a set of photos taken some 50 years ago. They had no concept of what 50 years meant, but were fascinated by the old photos.

Thanks again for your offer

PS looking at the dates you were in Arusha (1974-79) leads me to ask if your parents were involved at all in the Church (Christ Church). There was a new priest there in 1978 (Chris Stott) who, of all the co-incidences in the world, is now the priest in our local village church in England. Perhaps they would remember him. My parents went back to Arusha in 1978 also, and thatís why a few of the photos are from that time.

I agree that you don't want to try and use Access for your backend. Access is notorious unstable in multi-user environments and it is much slower than MySQL. MySQL and PHP would have been my first choice as well. I have a website that I built for my brother that I have been thinking about converting to Data-driven for some time (www.eucledmoore.com ). I intend to use MySQL and PHP for that.

I will look around for some PHP bullentin board. If you can tell me which ones you DON'T like, or what things you don't like about them then I can direct my evaluation a little better.

I will think about the layout. Actually, I it seems pretty good the way it is. But if I have any thoughts I will let you know.

Yes, I did find your map. What a great treasure to have kept all these years! In fact, I was looking for a map of Arusha some months back on the web and that is what led me to your site to begin with.:)

We did not attend Christ Church when in Arusha. My parents were actually working with the Baptist mission teaching at the seminary just north of Arusha. In an unusal turn of events though my wife and I started attending 'Christ Church', Bangkok a few years ago when we were living in Thailand. I was confirmed there and when we returned to the U.S. in 2001 we started attending 'Christ Church' Plano, which is a conservative Episcopal church (I feel I must qualify that with all that is going on in the Episcopal church these days). So I have every intention of visiting 'Christ Church' Arusha when next I have the chance to return there even though I understand now it is primarily a Swahili speaking fellowship.

I know that my father, Eucled Moore, was invited to preach at Christ Church, Arusha on occasion so it is very probably that he knew and was acquainted with Chris Stott (any relation to John Stott?).

Sincerely,

Allen

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Debbie Thiart
Page Number: 2004 05 02
Extract Date: 1969-1973

Deborah Ann Wallace - Arusha School 1969-1973

I am an old Arusha School student

I was at Arusha school from 1969 till1973. My parents farmed at west kilimanjaro. My mothers family was the Ulyate family, who all went to Arusha School as well. I was Deborah Ann Wallace, my brother was also there at school, he was Richard Wallace. I will at some stage try and give more information, I still have all my old school magazines the photos etc

If anyone from my years still has contact, please contact me.

Debbie Thiart

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Seif Soud
Page Number: 2004 05 03a
Extract Date: 2004 05 03

This is my art work

Dear Sir/Madam

Im an artist from Zanzibar,actualy I saw your site,very intrest for me.my name is Seif SOUD

I think this is very special and I plan to foward this just to see my art work and get some idea for another addition about zanzibarian art work.

your sicerely

Seif Soud

Extract ID: 4837

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Extract Author: Seif Soud
Page Number: 2004 05 03b

This is my art work

Extract ID: 4838

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Extract Author: Seif Soud
Page Number: 2004 05 03c

This is my art work

Extract ID: 4839

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Extract Author: Seif Soud
Page Number: 2004 05 03d

This is my art work

Extract ID: 4840

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Deryck Matthews
Page Number: 2004 05 13
Extract Date: 1963

Deryck Matthews Arusha School 1963

The Arusha School Alumni website I have just stumbled across, has jerked back some wonderful memories. I was headboy in 1963 and Mr Hampshire was headmaster and Mr "BL" Jones was my tutor. Although some details have faded over the years some names and faces are still with me. In particular Karsten Lund and John Bovenisor whose families kindly took me in during the half-term breaks, as my family lived in Tabora, a dusty two day trek by train and bus.

And in that photo, back row top left, is myself and my younger brother Chris !!!!!

Thanks for the memories.

Kindest Regards

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Aileen Mallya
Page Number: 2004 05 26
Extract Date: 1990's

Aileen Mallya - Arusha School 1990's?

David,

well i guess i fall in a younger generation of Arusha School Alumni, but all in all.. comning across this site really made my day. It's lovely to read all the beautiful memories people have of Arusha school.

Well, just to let those who were there in the 70s and 80s, some teachers are still there today, the likes of Ms Ngowi, Ms Walala, Mr Kaale and they are still going strong...

Our darling Tortoise is still going strong too...

As for Allen Moore, the old colonial house you lived in is still there...i live in the same area...

i hope you will soon be able to establish an official alumni site.

keep up the good work!

All the best.

aileen

Aileen Mallya

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Elizabeth Babault-Tremsal
Page Number: 2004 05 26

Researching Renť Babault

I am french and I rechearch a member of my familly who was a great hunter of "Afriventures" his name is : Renť Babault. My great father, Guy Babault (a great explorator), was his father (second mariage). If you have some news about him, or if you know how I can contact him or his familly, please send me a message. Thank you very much. Elizabeth Babault-TREMSAL

I have no special information about how to make personal contact with the Babault family.

In fact the only knowledge I have is from Brian Herne's book - and I am sure you find the extract from page380 http://www.ntz.info/gen/n01478.html

If you can find a way to contact Brian Herne, he may have more information for you. You may be able to reach him through the publishers of the book.

Details at http://www.ntz.info/gen/b00623.html

Today I am departing for a visit to Tanzania, so I shall take your question with me and see if I can find out anything more.

Thank you very much for your kindness. I hope you will be able to get some information about them. I wish you a nice trip to Tanzania. Elizabeth.

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Miriam Watters (Pope)
Page Number: 2004 05 29
Extract Date: 1953-61

Miriam Pope - Arusha School 1959-1961

G'day David!

Congratulations on your website - it is a fascinating and a great browse!

My names is Miriam Watters nee Pope. I now live in Brisbane, Australia but I lived East Africa from 1953 until 1961. - spending 3 years in Arusha from 1959 to 1961 (aged 8 to 11). Your website was a trip down memory lane especially with the photo of staff and students in front of Arusha School. I wonder if my face is amongst the students - I was there about the time it was taken!

Mr. Hamshere was a wonderful headmaster and I remember my favourite teacher was Janet Jewell and of course who could forget "BL Jones!

In my autograph book I also have the names of other teachers - H. Tofte, Margaret Crow and V. Gormley. Rev. Bryn Jones was a good friend to my parents Jean and Frank Pope.

Dad was Mechanical Supervisor for PWD. We have happy memories of "Hatari" being made and the excitement of John Wayne and his fellow stars coming to town. I actually met John Wayne, Valentine DeVargis, Red Buttons and Howard Hawks in the Safari Hotel where they were enjoying a beer!

Dad went on safari with our neighbour Hugh Lamprey to catch the rhino for the film and Mum was an extra, chosen through her involvement with the Little Theatre. She acted in many fine plays along with Paddy Purchase .

I read with interest, Michele Calorio's letter on your website. I would love to contact her as I have a photo taken at a children's birthday party held by Mrs Calorio and from memory it was for her daughter Luisa Calorio.

I would be happy for you to include my name on your website and pass my email on to Michele.

Our neighbours in Springvale Road were Dr. and Mrs Carloni and children Nicoletta and Roger. I keep in contact with David "Titch" North-Lewis (now in UK), Melody, Rosemary (both UK) and Nigel Purchase (Kenya) and Joy Thomson (New Zealand).

Joy's father was Rev. Thomson from the Anglican Church. Other names I remember from my class are: Susan Totman, Yvonne Zikarkis, Jane Atlee, Peter Owen-Pawson and Peter French. My younger sister Vanessa was best friends with Elizabeth Cashin. My brother Alan was in the junior school. I also went to Sunday school at the Anglican Church - which has been beautifully kept and looks as good as when we attended church there.

I returned to Arusha in 2002 with my special friend Janet McGavin (who now lives in the UK) who also attended Arusha School. We first met as toddlers in Tabora and we have been close friends since then. One of the current teachers at Arusha School, Shaibu Pelle, showed us around the school. It was a very emotional visit - especially seeing the old tortoise again!

Before moving to Arusha my family lived in Dar-es-salaam where I went to St. Joseph's School for 6 months (in 1956) then we moved to Lindi until 1958. We left Tanzania just after Uhuru, in November 1961, and migrated to Australia in 1962.

By sheer chance I met Colin Swynnerton here in Brisbane - we realised we must have been in the same class as he was also a student at Arusha School and remembered the same class mates names.

I'll get in touch again if my memory comes up with any other names!

Kind regards,

Miriam Watters (Pope)

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Helen Grazier (nee Goode)
Page Number: 2004 06 11
Extract Date: 1950's

Helen Goode - Arusha School - 1950's

Iíve just come across your site with so much interesting information on Arusha School. I was a former pupil there in the mid 1950ís, but my paternal Grandmother Gertrude Goode was matron at the school for 8 years in the 1930/40ís. I have a few photos of that era if you are interested.

My Grandfather Robert (Bob) Goode was an architect/builder who is responsible for a number of churches & buildings including the Arusha clock tower.

Congratulations on producing such a wonderful site which holds so many memories for so many people.

Regards,

Helen Grazier (nee Goode)

Helen

Forgive me, I failed to reply to your email when it arrived - I was in fact away, visiting Arusha - and I must have missed it completely. Now Iím trying to catch up on my nTZ web site stuff, before another trip back to Arusha.

Iím most interested in your information about your Grandfather who designed the Clock Tower. Iíve been trying for ages to find out when it was built, and why, and who paid for it, and, of course who designed it.

SO far I gather it was just after WW2, and donated by a "Greek".

Do you have any more information you could share with me, and the web site about the Clock Tower specifically, but also would be fascinated to hear more about other buildings your Grandfather designed.

What were your parents doing, that you were at Arusha School in the 50ís - and where are you now?

I also was at the school at the same time 53-57 (my father was rector at Christ Church), but Iím sorry that I donít remember your name - Iím not sure that I could remember many names.

I have two Arusha School Magazines Feb 56, and March 57, and I see no mention of any Goodes - the names listed are either magazine contributors or prize winners of various types. I did see an poem in memory of "Cloudy" - Sister Gertrude Cloudsdale, Senior Matron 1945-49. Maybe all matrons were called Gertrude!

Thanks for your email, and again forgive me for taking too long to reply

It was a pleasant surprise to hear from you, as I must admit I thought maybe my email had gone into a "black hole". Unfortunately, I haven't too many details about my Grandfather and there's no-one alive for me to call on for help. What I do have are a magazine article in 1960 written about my grandparents on their golden wedding anniversary, and the script of a speech my grandmother gave in 1969.

In the magazine (Looking Glass) it describes their life when they moved to Moshi in 1929 from Eldoret & prior to 1923 they were in India. Gertrude Goode became the town baker in Moshi, and

"in these pre-war years Mr Goode, as architect or builder and contractor was responsible for such well-known buildings as the Dodoma Cathedral, the Arusha Church and the old Coffee Tree Inn (which became the New Ridgeway Hotel)."

"When the Arusha School first opened in 1937, Mrs Goode was asked to give a hand for two or three days. Those few days lasted 8 years, where as matron of the school she was responsible for the well-being of the children."

The photos I have are of the staff, dining room and pupils and are dated 1939.

In my grandmother's speech she says:

"My husband, a military Engineer was filling in a great want, designing, building etc. The Australian Church Missionary Society had their headquarters in Dodoma about 2 days by train away. The Bishop asked my husband to design a cathedral in 6 days! To cut a long story short, he did it, staying up late at night. I washed the blue prints in the bathroom outside and finished the morning the train was leaving, and helped to carry the copy out full to dry! Dodoma cathedral is beautiful, a smaller copy was built in Arusha."

"My husband built the first Church of Scotland Church in Moshi, which was part of the Minister's house, as Moshi was so poor that the Minister had to give up his dining and drawing room to serve as a church. The furniture was made by young Africans taught by my husband. A new church and vicarage was built some 11 or more years later, and the first one now serves as a hall for visiting missionaries."

It seems that my grandfather did most of his work during the 1930's (he was born in 1881), so I think it would have been around the same time that he did the Arusha Clock Tower. I know he also designed and built the Chapel of St John the Divine in Moshi as my parents were married there in 1945.

My father David Goode was 18 yrs old when the family moved from India. He had a variety of jobs including a Beacon Inspector in the Lupa Goldfields, but after WW2 he joined the Agricultural Department where he remained until we left for England in 1960 (my mother came from UK). Both my brother Michael and I were born in Bukoba, but the family moved every 3 years or so due to my father's job. Michael and I went to Mbeya, Arusha and St Michael's & St George's in Iringa.

I emigrated to Perth, Western Australia in 1970 and my parents (who have both since died) followed me in 1983. My brother remains in UK.

My memory for names is atrocious, and trying to remember those from so many years ago is almost impossible for me. The only claim to fame I have from Arusha is that I won a scholarship to attend Iringa and I was considered a promising violinist!!

I'm sorry I can't be more specific about the Clock Tower. I visited Arusha while on a camping holiday in 1989 and was thrilled to see that it still holds pride of place in the town.

Regards,

Helen

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Julie Sundin
Page Number: 2004 06 13
Extract Date: 1974

St. Constantines International School

I went to St. Constantines International School in Arusha from 1974 to around 1977/1978 and I remember competing against Arusha International School in swimming carnivals. I was amazed to see a photo (on the school website) of the Tortoise - still going strong after all these years.

I was friends with Maxine and Sam (Samantha) Heywood-Shot (Shott?) and would love to catch up with them again. Would love to hear from anyone who knows them or their whereabouts.

What a great life Arusha gave us - yes the schools were strict, the teachers harsh, the school food often horrid (we got Mrs Cruickshank after she left your school - she was at St Michaelís school in Soni before that (my brother had her) - but the memories form some of the best in my life.

Look forward to hearing from anyone. Cheers

Julie Sundin

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Elizabeth Palfrey
Page Number: 2004 06 21
Extract Date: 1950's

Elizabeth Palfrey - Arusha School 1950's?

I'm so excited!

I was doing some research on Arusha because I went to school there and lived at Olmolog when I came across your sight. Time was suddenly peeled away and the memories flooded back.

My father, Arthur Palfrey, farmed at Olmolog and Piet Hugo was our next door neighbour. He is buried in the Christian cemetery in Arusha. I left East Africa in 1960 to emigrate to the U.S.

My brother in law was Roy Holmes who married my sister, Anne Palfrey. Roy Holmes passed away in Newcastle, Kwa-Zulu-Natal in January 2003. He worked in Arusha on the film 'Hatari'.

Currently, I live in Texas but my family all live in South Africa. My maiden name was Elizabeth Palfrey.

Extract ID: 4849

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Oliver J Cordell
Page Number: 2004 08 02

Oliver J Cordell - Arusha School 1947-1950

what a great website . Just discovered it and am exhausted from extended read , so shall keep short my connexion . My father was rector at the church for the above period and built the hall / extension himself , even to the point of making the concrete blocks himself by hand .

He had first come to tanganyika as a missionary in '27/ '28 and spent most of his time in dodoma . Arusha was a stint / perk to give missionaries a bit of a break from the grind of life in the 'interior '

life was great then , and the site brings back countless memories

I came back to arusha in '60 for a swahili course at tengeru prior to posting to shinyanga as a district officer (cadet) .remember I had to talk my way out of a fight with john wayne's standin after having cast a lewd look at elsa martinelli during a party at the new arusha hotel ! ! ! .

Climbed meru to the top w/o a guide , relying on memory of my first school ascent in '49 (?) when I all but reached the top . Was pretty pleased with myself .

Last visit to arusha was '66 . Wd love to get back again and often wonder about the old families who lived in the area , figenschous , eckhardts , michaeledes , horns and so on ! !

After two yrs in shya joined the australian foreign service till '93. now live in sweden with second wife and new family ! !

Am sending this web address to karin blowers /neť drews who lives in qld australia and is interested in catching up with old students from our time .

Grettings to all ex arusha hands . Oliver J cordell

Oliver

Iím trying to catch up with nTZ web site things, and find that I neglected to reply to your email. Please forgive me that so much time has elapsed.

In fact, your email has reminded me of so many things which Iíd love to dig out to show you and put on the web site. But Iíve been very busy, and am now trying to prepare for a trip to Arusha next week to help develop a web site.

Iíll try to write again soon, and send you a plan of the rectory - hand drawn by my father (rector 1953-57), plus photos of the boards in the church recording the rectors, including your fathers name.

Presume youíve found the DVD of Hatari. The New Safari Hotel has been completely rebuilt, and is owned by the Lutheran Church, and the bar is dry! More memorabilia of the film is found in the, also rebuilt, New Arusha Hotel. I recently met an old Safari Guide from Nairobi who had America clients with him in Arusha when the filming was taking place. They were in the Safari Bar when John Wayne came in, and all the women were awe struck. The guide persuaded John Wayne to go over and say hello to his clients. And that was the highlight of their African Safari - they talked about nothing else for the next 10 days, with little interest in the animals!

I know only two people in the Area who have been there since the fifties. They may remember some of the names you mentions, but I suspect that most people have moved on.

Iíll be in touch again, as soon as I can.

 

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Preeti Krishnan
Page Number: 2004 08 07
Extract Date: 2004 08 07

Mount Meru Hospital

Hi there! Iím trying to find a contact number or e-mail add for Mount Meru Hospital, Arusha Tanzania. I would appreciate any info you can give me.

Thanks!

Preeti

Try

From http://www.developmentgateway.org/node/285491/doc/arusha

Hospitals, Clinics

Mount Meru Hospital:

+255 27 2503352,

From http://fizzylogic.com/wasukuma/arushaeye/hospitals.html

Tel: 2503352 / 2503658

But I canít find an email address.

 

Extract ID: 4841

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Shaun R S Conner
Page Number: 2004 08 09
Extract Date: 1947-1970

Shaun R S Conner - Arusha School 1963-1966

My family were coffee farmers in and around Arusha, Moshi, Oldiani from 1947 until about 1970.

My Uncle, Colonel Terence Conner was a well known character in Tanzania, from farming to sports. I am wondering if a history of the period has ever been written with information on the British farmers and indeed other farmers and their lives during that time.

I was at Arusha School from 1963 to 1966 and lived on a farm outside Moshi at a place called Waru Waru.

My father worked with my Uncle and they had a large farm at Oldiani then moved to Ogaden estate ouitside Arusha and thus to West Kilimanjaro before a compulsory purchase order was placed on all the 26 arable farms in West Kili in about 1975.

Shaun R S Conner

Forgive me, I think your email slipped by, and I have never responded to it. Life has been so busy, that I havenít had nearly as much time as I would have liked to devote to the web site.

Good to hear from you, and to add your name as another alumni of the school. My father was the rector of Christ Church in Arusha 1953-57 and visited many of the farms in the Oldeani area. His diaries are on the web site, and any names mentioned are indexed.

I donít know of any formal history of the area, and the British (and many other nationalities) farmers. There are lots of anecdotal accounts in various memories, some old, and some published fairly recently.

The main text Iíd love to find is an inventory of all the farms in the area carried out by the Custodian of Enemy property soon after WW2.

Try to find these three

http://www.ntz.info/gen/b00755.html

http://www.ntz.info/gen/b00055.html

http://www.ntz.info/gen/b00497.html

(more about David Read at http://www.serengetimasai.com/index.html)

Where are you now - have you been back to Tanzania?

Thank you for your email. Yes, I have been back to Tanzania since we left in 1966. As I say my Uncle continued to farm until 1975. I went back in 1988 to wedding at the Marangu Hotel in Moshi. Previous to that I did a trip with my Uncle in 1974 visiting all remaining friends in Oldiani, Arusha and Moshi.

My Uncle moved to live in Nairobi and I have literally been out so many times over the past 20 years to Kenya I couldn't say for sure how many. We have many friends in Kenya still.I love Africa! I will try and get the info you seek. I have a good contact in Moshi, Rennie Barnes and I think he has access to all sorts of info about the farms. I will try.

Shaun

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Lennie Holm
Page Number: 2004 08 18
Extract Date: 1985-1087

Lennie Holm - Arusha School 1985-1087

Dear Editor and all

I stumbled over this website a week or so ago and was amazed by the wealth of information that it contains. Having resided on and off in Arusha since 1982 till present I was initially hooked on the old photos taken around the clock tower.

Now I have come to the Arusha School section and am equally thrilled. I attended Arusha school one or two generations later then most of you (1985-87) and last visited the school during December 2003.

Iím currently outside the country on an expatriate contract but expect to return to Arusha for an extended period starting the end of the year. If there is any help I can render in finding infos etc. please do not hesitate to let me know. Last but not least, I would like to express my respect for all who have contributed with time and materiel to fill this website - it offers unique insight in the often hard to access history of Arusha.

Kind regards

Lennie Holm

Thanks for your kind feedback about the website. It's all my own work, built up slowly over a period now of some 10 years. I wish I had more time to work on it and expand it. Contributions from people like you are much appreciated. Many of the older photos were taken by my parents when we lived in Arusha in the 1950's.

Obviously it's the history of Arusha, not just of the school, which I find interesting, and any old photos or bits of information you can find will help. I'd love to find anything about the building and opening of the clock tower.

What will you be doing when you are back in Arusha? Do keep in touch when you are there. I think it will be next April before I have a chance to get back again.

Thanks for your email. Indeed, my initial interest was sparked by the photo you have that are taken around the Clock-tower. They presented quite a revelation as they were the first visual representation of that area that I have come across save for the few scenes in Hatari that were shot there.

Apropos Hatari, my fathers wifeís first husband and father of my step brothers was the owner of the Momella Lodge, the late Mr. Mallory and we have in our household the bed that stood in John Wayneís room during the shooting of the movie (not the one the elephant broke). Also I have a friend who is the grandson of a Mr Anastasios, who allegedly is the person who rented part of his fleet for the filming of the movie. The familyís yard in Moshono still sports an divers collection of decaying non-runners but Iím not sure whether the vehicles used in the movie are among them.

Upon my return to Arusha I will assume the management of a safari company there called Scan Tan Tours and expect to remain in Arusha for at least a year or two so I should have some time to look into the clock tower issue. Do you have any information about the appearance of the area previously known as Arusha plantations? We have a house on on Themi Hill and I believe it and the land below must have been all farming area, perhaps coffee. At the foot of Themi [Temi] Hill stands a derelict farm house and from its appearance and position I suspect the surrounding land must been attached to this farm - the area where the Nane-Nane grounds now lie and beyond. Looking much forward to hear from you again and hope we might find time for a chat next time you are in Arusha.

Extract ID: 4859

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: M Jacoby-Lopez
Page Number: 2004 08 19
Extract Date: 1973

Looking for Richard

Hi..your web site is great. I was not a student at the school,but am looking for someone who may have gone there.

He would have graduated in 1964 I think.His father was a former Governor of Zanzibar.all I know is his first name.RichardÖ

We met him on a ship sailing from Durban to India in 1973

He was a passionate photographer,and probably still is.

Any ideas as to the surname of this fellow.

The notes,and compositions about the school are so great,that I wish I had gone there.

Thanks

Sincerely

M Jacoby-Lopez

Margaret

As you say, a pretty impossible question.

Hereís what I can find about the former Governors of Zanzibar (or British Residents)

From http://www.fact-index.com/z/za/Zanzibar.html

British Residents

Francis Pearce, (1913 - 1922)

John Sinclair, (1922 - 1923)

Alfred Hollis, (1923 - 1929)

Richard Rankine, (1929 - 1937)

John Hall, (1937 - 1940)

Harry Pilling, (1940 - 1946)

Vincent Glenday, 1946 - 1951)

John Rankine, (1952 - 1954)

Harry Potter, 1954 - 1959)

Arthur Mooring, (1959 - 1963)

More on Arthur Mooring

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Arthur%20Mooring

(this same paragraph occurs in many other sources)

Sir Arthur Mooring (November 23, 1908 - 1969) was educated at Bedford Modern School and Queens' College, before entering the Colonial Service in 1931. He served there for a number of years in Nigeria before joining the Royal West African Frontier Forces, serving in West Africa, India and Burma. He was mentioned in dispatches and gained the rank of Lieutenant Colonel . Following the Second World War, he returned to Nigeria and rose to become the Deputy Governor of the Western region. In 1959 he became the British Resident in Zanzibar, a position he held until independence in 1963.

However, this source thinks his name was George.

Http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/abbey/313/truth7.html

Before the trip to London the :British Resident, Sir George Mooring, initiated discussions between the government and opposition to facilitate certain contentious matters

Checking the Governor before - Harry Potter (maybe JK Rowling lived in Zanzibar) is a nightmare, because there are so many "Harry Potter" references, and I canít find anything useful in between.

But maybe you need to go back further. If Richard graduated in 1964, say 20, he would have been primary age maybe 1950 on. SO maybe his father was John Rankine.

But, some details here:

http://www.archiveshub.ac.uk/news/03051303.html

Sir John Dalzell Rankine (1907-1987), KCMG (1954), CMG (1947), KCVO (1956), KStJ (1958), Brilliant Star of Zanzibar (1st Class) (1954) was educated at Christ's College, Christchurch, New Zealand, and at Exeter College, Oxford, where he graduated in 1930. He entered colonial service as a cadet, Uganda, 1931, became Assistant Secretary, East African Governor's Conference, 1939, First Assistant Secretary, 1942, and Assistant Colonial Secretary, Fiji in the same year. He was made Colonial Secretary, Barbados, 1945, served as Chief Secretary, Kenya, 1947-1951 and as Chairman, Development and Reconstruction Authority. He was British Resident, Zanzibar, 1952-1954, administered the Governments of Barbados and Kenya on various occasions, and was Governor, Western Region, Nigeria, 1954-1960. In 1939 he married Janet Grace Austin (d 1976), with whom he had one daughter.

Where we see he only had a daughter.

So this means that you are probably looking for a Richard Potter or Richard Mooring. No luck here with Google searches.

One point, I think it more likely that the son of the Resident on Zanzibar would have been educated in Dar es Salaam, rather than "up country" Arusha.

So good luck with your searches.

Iíll add this correspondence to the web site , and see what happens.

David thanks for the response.

I appreciate it. If something connects with your allum, I would be thrilled.

sincerely

Margaret

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Mathieu Tˇffffe
Page Number: 2004 08 24
Extract Date: 2004 08 24

traditional uses of Conyza pyrrhoppapa and Microglossa angolensis

I am senior lecturer at the university of Dschang in Cameroon. I am a chemist working on natural products. I was looking on the traditional uses of Conyza pyrrhoppapa and Microglossa angolensis; I obtained this information: Kokwaro J O, Medicinal plants of East Africa,1976; East African Literature Bureau. These plants are used to treat malaria and some gastric troubles.

Please can you give me the pages number referred to these plants (C.pyrr and M.angolensis):the firt and the last pages? And any other information?

Thank you in advance for your understanding

Unfortunately I don't think I have any information to help you.

I listed the book by Kokwaro on the web site after seeing it in the possession of a lady in New York, and don't have any more details, or access to a copy so as to give you more information about these plants - I presume that you are hoping for a scan of the relevant pages.

If I ever come across a copy to buy, I will keep your request in mind and get back to you.

Sorry not to be able to help any more at the moment.

 

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Duncan Mitchell
Page Number: 2004 08 24

Researching Francis Brett Young

I came upon your superbly interesting website per chance (I was researching Francis Brett Young).

I'm on the Library Committee of Muthaiga Country Club charged with developing an Africana Section.

Being quite unsure of what kind of website you are, I wonder if you have any reprint Africana books for sale??

Look forward to your reply.

Duncan Mitchell

Thanks for you comments on the web site.

The site is a hobby really - combining my interest in Northern Tanzania with trying to learn about how to make web sites.

The books which have a source and a price noted are all part of my own collection, and, unfortunately for you, I donít resell them in any way.

Thereís a page which notes the booksellers Iíve found useful for Africana books.

Http://www.ntz.info/pages/bookshops.html. If you want to start on-line, start with http://www.abebooks.com/

And itís surprising now what you can find on Amazon.

You no doubt saw my extract from FBY Marching on Tanga http://www.ntz.info/gen/b00610.html#03375

It was earlier this year that I read the book, and was very impressed with his descriptions of the country side they moved through, and the realities of the war for a foot soldier.

One day when Iím next in Nairobi, maybe I should pay you (or at least your library) a visit. Iím sure youíll have lots there of interest, which possibly canít be found anywhere else.

Many Thank for the search tips.

Wow! Yours is a generous hobbyÖI have uncovered some absolute gems in your site!

Perhaps of interest to you, I'm just back from a Tsavo safari and for the first time in about 10 years visited Lake Jipe and Taveta. What a mess! Squatters have swarmed in, pulling apart the old trenches and redoubts at Salita Hill (searching for German gold - I am told).

The Pare Mountains are bare monoliths oozing smoke from countless charcoal burnersÖ The Lake has virtually dried up as the Lumi River and canals have all been divertedÖ Makes you want to cry!

Only positive thing Öthe Commonwealth War Graves at Taveta and Maktau are still well maintained.

Anyway..karibu tena na Muthaiga ClubÖ you'll always find me there.

Sadly, for umpteen years the library was fed 'current list' books from a single UK source and sadly neglected collecting Africana. In fact the best Africana collection in Kenya was at Nairobi Club (but many titles have just disappeared!)

Best

Duncan

Given your obvious interest in WW1 I suggest you contact Gerald Rilling in America (Chicago area I think)

He used to work in Tanzania, and is an expert on those times, with lots of relevant books for sale.

Mention my name, if you email him to ask for his book lists.

 

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Graham Mercer
Page Number: 2004 09 13

Researching Siedentopfs

Firstly, congratulations on the website - it's extremely interesting and useful!

I've been interested for years in the Siedentopf brothers who farmed in Ngorongoro Crater but there are still gaps in my knowledge - do you know:

a) when the stone-built farmhouses were erected, as Fourie in 1908 talks of the brothers being "still in tents"?

B) how Friedrich Willem actually died?

C) how Adolf died? One source (quoted on your website) says he was killed by a Maasai spear but this is untrue, as he didn't die until 1932 when it is thought he may have committed suicide in Alabama, USA.

D) I believe Friedrich Willem never married - any confirmation of this?

Many thanks, and thanks for the website - it's really good -

Graham Mercer, DSM

Thanks for you kind comments.

Are you "THE" Graham Mercer of various books, including the Beauty of the Ngorongoro?

I suspect that I would have turned to your texts to try to answer your questions, but obviously that's not the place to go.

And no answers (yet) to your questions. I've just spent a while looking to see if I can find anything. Like you, the Siedentopf's have captured my imagination, and I have already put on the web site most of the relevant quotes.

I missed one from Fosbrooke (page 176). I suspect you have his book, but if not I'll scan it in for you. He describes Adolph as the dominant character, with FW in a more subordinate role. He says Adolph entered the Crater about 1899 as a squatter.

On p28 Fosbrook says that there is a short book in German recording the life of Siedentopf - maybe this is a source that needs tracking down (and translating).

If you are in Tanzania, perhaps you have been able to see Fosbrookes paper's, which I understand to be kept at the University in Dar es Salaam. Maybe there will be more details there about this book.

Your correction c) to the claim that Adolf was killed by a Maasai spear is interesting, because it is the second correction I've received to "facts" found in Brian Herne's book.

So other than this, nothing really by way of answers to your questions, but I'll keep looking. If there are any specific places where you think it may be worth looking, do let me know. There's quite likely to be something somewhere in Tanganyika Notes and Records, but unfortunately I only have two editions, and rely on trips to Rhodes House, Oxford to find more. Mary Leakey may well have recorded somewhere whatever she knew, as part of documenting the digs she carried out in the crater.

Finally, one of the Siedentopfs is buried in Mbulu. We visited it in Dec 1996, and I think I have some video which I took at the time. I'll see if I can dig it out, and see if I managed to record any more detail about which one it was, and when he died. I wish I had been more diligent at the time.

Lovely to get your prompt response!

Yes, I am the "Graham Mercer of various books", for better or for worse! But my interest in the Siedentopfs is personal as well as "professional" - in fact I'm interested in "East Africana" generally, if we can call it that, and especially its colonial history.

I do have Henry Fosbrooke's book - it's a treasure trove of info as you know, though there are some blank spots as always. Henry actually came to find me here in Dar some years ago and we became friends, though unfortunately he died two or three years later. He wanted me to write a history of Ngorongoro and each time he came to Dar (he was fighting a court case on behalf of his beloved Maasai and would come down - at the age of about 85 - on the bus or train!) he would bring material with him and share it with me. In fact I have a copy of the Livermore diaries which he gave me, which covers the 1923 Livermore safari to the Crater etc, with some interesting material from Fourie's journals also, and from John Hunter's book, which I think I have in England. Fourie was a fascinating man in his own right, as was John Hunter.

I've found a German website (posted by a descendent of the Seidentopfs, it seems) which appears to confirm that Adolf Seidentopf died in 1932 in Alabama, perhaps by committing suicide by poisoning himself. On the same website he talks of Friedrich W S dying as a result of an accident, but I don't speak German and the translation is poor. I've sent a cutting from the text to a German friend and am hoping to find out more.

I'm actually writing a brief history of Ngorongoro right now as part of a proposed new Ngorongoro guide, though as I say my interest goes much deeper than this and I've always been fascinated by the Siedentopfs (I once camped on Friedrich Willem's old lawn, just outside the cottage by the Lerai, with the anti-poaching squad).

I often consult your website since discovering it a few months ago - most of what is on there I know about as I tend to read quite a lot of books etc about East Africa, and I have quite a few copies of Tanzania Notes and Records, which are excellent. But there is always something on your site which is new to me, and in any case the site represents a wonderful, see-at-a-glance reference source - it's great! I shall certainly include your name in the acknowledgments sector of the Ngorongoro guide (if it ever sees the light of day!) and you website in the bibliography) - don't get too excited...

Many thanks, and all the best with the website!

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Sue
Page Number: 2004 09 18

Maa Dictionary

I am looking for a dictionary of massai (Maa) words translated into english. Do you know of oneÖ.thanks sue

The only one I know of is by Mol, F. Fr. - Maa: A Dictionary of the Maasai Language and Folklore

The reference I have says it was printed

1978 Publisher: Marketing and Publishing Ltd. Nairobi

but this must be a reprint, because I think the original was done about 100 years ago. Iíve seen a copy in a house in Tanzania, but I suspect thatís it hard to get hold of.

However, you may find more of what you need here

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~dlpayne/maasai/madict.htm

 

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Percy Siganporia
Page Number: 2004 09 21
Extract Date: 1905 - 1917

10 Rupees / 10 Rupien

I am a serious collector of banknotes specializing in '10 Rupees / 10 Rupien' of various countries including German East Africa (GEA).

While searching the Google engine , I hit upon your site which I found to be very informative. However, I would like to know if you have any information pertaining to the banknotes . My Question would be

How many different Signatories (or Governors ) has the GEA '10 Rupien' been issued between 1905 - 1917 and what were its different types / prefixes.

I shall be grateful if I can get this information.

Thanking You Sincerely,

Percy Siganporia

Wow, what an interesting hobby! I thought that Northern Tanzania was pretty specialised, but finding 10 Rupee bank notes must call for real dedication.

And itís a shame that I cannot help you, because I donít think that Iíve got anything in my collection which will give the kind of detail you want. Most books just say something like ďthe currency used to be the RupeeĒ and stop there.

My guess is that many of the sources you need will be in German, and thatís always a challenge for non-German speakers.

However, Iíll try to remember you request as I look arround, and if I see anything Iíll let you know.

I truly appreciate your fast response and your gesture in helping me in the information I seek for my subject of specialization. As you rightly said, there could be sources in German which can provide me with certain detials of the '10 Rupien' banknotes issued between 1905 & 1917 by GEA . It is a matter of time / efforts that one can get the information they require, thanks to the internet.

Anyway, if you do come across information or even banknotes of '10 Rupien ' GEA or '10 Rupees' of Mombasa (East Africa) , Zanzibar , kindly let me know. I shall be truly grateful for the same.

Extract ID: 4848

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Kilulu Von Prince
Page Number: 2004 09 25

Researching Chief Adam Sapi

To Whom It May Concern:

I'm Tom Von Prince grand daughter and live in California, USA.I would like to get in touch with Chief Adam Sapi and/or any one of his family.Could you help me to make the contact -

Also, I was born in Tanzania in 1929 in Bumbuli and named Kilulu. I am interested to know if there is still a place named that way in Northern Tanzania. And I would like to know if the hospital in Bumbuli is still in existence.

Your response is much appreciated.

Sincerely,

Kilulu Von Prince ( I capitalized the von when I became an American citizen)

Last question first - it seems that there is still a Hospital at Bumbuli run by the Lutheran Church. Details on the web at http://www.elct-ned.org/index.php?option=content&task=category&sectionid=5&id=22&Itemid=29 but in case itís not online, hereís a quote from that page:

Bumbuli Hospital

Bumbuli Hospital, is one of the 20 ELCT Hospitals, and is governed by NED. It is located in Usambara Mountains, 40 km South east of the District town of Lushoto, in a village called Bumbuli. The only other hospital in Lushoto District is the District Hospital in Lushoto town. The total population in this District is about 400,000 people, considering the fact that there are only two hospitals in the District. Bumbuli hospital is by all means highly needed.

The hospital has a long history, which goes back to as far as 1929 when the old buildings were established. In 1962 - 64 the old hospital buildings were replaced by a 3-floors building with a capacity of 120 beds, three wards, a maternity room, a large operating theatre, and a wing with laboratory, high standard private ward, and administration floor.

The year 2002 is going to be the Hospitalís one of historical years. The Hospital underwent several ups and downs in the position of the Doctor In-charge. The year ended by major transformations in both the leadership structure and its personnel.

The formally independent college and its leadership was now united with the hospital leadership to form a single unit with a one head as it appears in the organogram. In this new hospital administrative structure there is the Director of the hospital who is the overall head of both the college (as the Principle) and the hospital (as the Doctor In-charge). The Director is given power to appoint one of the hospitals doctors to be the Academic Officer.

I guess therefore that the place still exists.

Were you born at the hospital, when it was established in 1929? - were your parents perhaps doctors helping to establish it?

I see also that there is a Kilulu Isalnd

http://www.travelersdigest.com/islands/indian/Kilulu.htm - Kilulu Island is approx. 100km north of Mombasa, 17 km south of Malindi and approximately 3 km from Club Hotel Watamu Beach.

I wonder if that was how you were named.

As for Chief Adam Sapi - I have no idea at the moment, but I shall do some more searches, and when I visit Tanzania in two weeks time I shall make some more enquiries for you. I shall also look out for more information about your Grandfather. Iím sure there must be more than the brief mentions here http://www.ntz.info/gen/n00957.html

Do please let me know if you have other information about him and about Tanzania which you can share with me, and which you would be happy for me to put on the web site for the benefit of those interested.

Iím sure there are many more people now wanting to learn about the early history of Tanzania/Tanganyika/GEA.

Thanks again for your email

 

Extract ID: 4869

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Torsten MŲller
Page Number: 2004 09 26a
Extract Date: 1956-1958

Torsten MŲller - Arusha School 1956-1958

I was at Arusha School from May 1956 to December 1958 and in the 46 years since leaving I have not had any news. To then come across your site and explore its contents has been just marvellous. The photograph of the dining room, redolent of tough liver and Ďfrog spawn fruití, was for me the most poignant, with the very same benches and Mt. Meru ascension boards still in place. That says a lot about the values and traditions handed down over, literally, generations. The living embodiment of this constancy is of course the tortoise - may it outlive us all!

I was born on 5th May 1949 of Swedish parents at the hospital in Arusha, which also features in one of your photographs. My father was District Medical Officer, with postings in Monduli, Mwanza, Bukoba, and Moshi, and then ran the Health Education unit and the University Dispensary in Dar es Salaam until 1967. Dar is in fact the beginning of my most vivid memory of life at Arusha School.

It was the end of the Easter holidays in 1958 when I contracted mumps and missed the first days of term as a result. My best friend, Richard Sloan did well out of this because despite not falling ill, he was told to stay away from school as well, as a precaution. Richard and I then made that interminable journey by train from Dar to Dodoma at what seemed like walking pace. I particularly remember a vile, unsweetened jelly dessert served on that train, made from the equally vile Dodoma water. Onwards the next day by bus, arriving in Arusha after dark. This was my first term after graduating from Junior School Block to a dormitory on one of the Ďquadsí. The first delight that night was getting into what was an Ďapple pieí bed and re-making it to sniggers in the dark from my, as yet unseen, fellow inmates.

The next day we were, as usual, required to lie on our beds for an hour at noon to read and rest, no doubt to give the masters some respite during the hottest part of the day. A sharp look-out was kept for ĎLankyí, a master held in particular fear on account of the fact that Ďsix of the bestí from his Size 12 tackie were particularly painful. As soon as the coast was clear, the prefect leapt off his bed and made for mine. All the other 11 members of the dormitory also gathered round, grinning in anticipation of the fun about to begin. The prefect produced a loaded gun, pointed it at me and pulled the trigger, but with no more serious consequences than the laughter at another entertaining initiation.

Other than this hair-raising experience, I have retained little of note; I remember the swimming galas when the Ďfloating competitioní was invariable won by the headmaster, Cyril Hamshere who was well endowed with natural buoyancy. Then there was the occasion when a purchase of ground nuts in a twist of newspaper for 5 cents laid me out for a week and left me with a life-long aversion for peanuts. I also remember the fabulous chameleons we used to befriend with offerings of dead flies and then keep on our shoulders as we hunted insects for our charges with strips of rubber as our weapon. To this day I am deadly accurate with a rubber band thanks to early training at Arusha School, Box 42, Arusha, Tanganyika Territory, British East Africa, Africa, Earth, The Solar System, SpaceÖ

Thanks for your email full of wonderful memories. Iím sorry itís taken me a little while to reply. I also received, and took full note of your request not to place it on the web site.

We must have overlapped by a few months. I left, aged 11, in April 1957. My brother was born in Arusha Hospital in 1954, and we took the photo of the hospital when we went back 10 years ago. Since then I have been lucky enough to make a few visits (another one next week!), and slowly develop the web site. I was thrilled to find the tortoise Ė my children thought I was joking when I told them about it, and were amazed when we turned a corner to find it still there. Still there also in April this year, as my last check.

I was also very surprised to see the dining hall looking exactly the same with all the old furniture, and the achievement boards still in place. For me the hated memory was the smell of burnt onions.

My father was the rector of Christ Church, just across the river, so I never had to suffer the privations of boarding. But I do remember being beaten on the palm of my hand by the master in the carpentry class. When I visited last year, there were about 1200 pupils, but using the same buildings erected perhaps for 300. They were all taking exams, with their desks spilling out onto the grounds around the classrooms.

I too suffered from mumps, but from exclusion from school, rather than the illness itself. My mother had mumps while breastfeeding me, so I must had acquired some immunity, and had to spend 56 days in quarantine (working at home, as we would call it now) as each of my brothers went down with it.

The swimming pool is also still there Ė but now a dry hole in the ground. It seems so small, and hard to realise the feeling of terror it invoked in one to whom swimming did not come easily. Somewhere I had a snap of the swimming gala, which I must put on the web site when I get a chance.

Extract ID: 4830

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Torsten MŲller
Page Number: 2004 09 26b
Extract Date: 1956-1958

Nina MŲller - Arusha School 1950-1955

A few extra pieces of information: My sister, Nina, born 16 August 1942, also went to Arusha School, from 1950 to 55, whereas my brother, Michael, went to Kongwa. I've lived in the UK for the last 32 years.

Extract ID: 4886

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: David Erickson
Page Number: 2004 09 26c
Extract Date: 26 September 2004

Short film on the Wataturu

Here is a link to a short film about Wataturu Pastoralists who are from the Singida Region and currently live in the Lake Eyasi basin.

Main Home Page

http://www.kemi.fi/voimala/CPSbody.htm

http://www.kemi.fi/voimala/2004_events.htm

Inner frame page

http://www.kemi.fi/voimala/trailers.htm

Link to the trailer http://www.kemi.fi/voimala/trailer_Wataturu_500_eng.htm

Extract ID: 4821

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Laurence Gilman
Page Number: 2004 09 27

Researching Gillman's Point

I am trying to find out how gilman's point near the summit of mount kilimanjaro got its name. any information you might have would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely:

laurence gilman

lansing, illinois u.s.a

As far as I can work out it was named after (or by) Clement Gillman, an engineer and geographer working in Tanganyika from about 1920 till his death in 1946.

He climbed the mountain in about 1921, and was the first to use " boiling point observations" to try to work out it's exact height. In 1923 he published "An Ascent of Kilimanjaro" in Geog. J. 61:1-27. (My source for this is the bibliography is John Readers book "Kilimanjaro").

The fact that Gillman's Point and Clement Gillman both have two L's also implies a connection (sorry if this means that, with one L, you may not have one).

However, I have found nothing concrete to positively state that the point was named after Clement Gillman, despite scanning as many books as possible the other evening.

I found a few more quotes relevant to Gillman, and hope to have them up on the web site in a few days, so check back to http://www.ntz.info/gen/n00194.html maybe in two weeks time. (or when the front page changes from "latest update in May" to "latest update in October")

Meanwhile, if you find out anything, I also would appreciate it if you could let me know.

thank you for your impressive efforts to inform me about the history of gilman's or Gillman's point, mount kilimanjaro. my server serves up both spellings with the limited information about the point.

i did get one photograph from an internet article written by a climber whose e-mail address is ***. in the photograph, david is standing next to a sign at gilman's point with the name on the sign containing one "l." i have written to him to see if he might have any information about gilman (Gillman), and if the name on the sign was written by a climber who did not know the accurate spelling of the name. [photo here ]

also, i received an e-mail from florence maiko, who conducts guided tours of kilimanjaro. florence, whose e-mail address is ***, said she understood gilman (with one "l") was a missionary who climbed the mountain, but could volunteer no other information. your wonderful articles on Clement Gillman are the most precise, but should you run into anything else that might point toward a rev. gilman with a penchant for climbing kilimanjaro, please let me know. one again, thank you for taking the time and trouble in helping me with this geneaological quest.

Extract ID: 4866

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Maggie Reese
Page Number: 2004 10 05

Researching Volga-deutsch

Hi, My name is Maggie Reese, my V-D Family names are Rosenoff (formerly Rosenauer, then Rosenow) and Altschieger, from Peskovatka, on the Don. My family was naturalized in the US in the 1890's, but I am currently looking for resources regarding some general Volga-Deutsch stuff, for a college research paper. If you have run across anything a little more recent than the 1900's I'd be greatly appreciativeÖ

Thanks!

M. Reese

Thanks for your email. The Volga-Deutsch history is so unusual, and so little mentioned, that when you do see a reference it stands out, and hence I suspect that most of what I have come across is already on the web site.

Iíll try to let you know if I come across any thing else, but I suspect that most of it is now buried in German Archives. However, my first extract on the Volga-Deutsch page comes from someone living in an old German House, and he may know more. Iím going to be in Tanzania briefly next week and might see him; if so Iíll ask.

Meanwhile, good luck with your searches, and if you find anything to add to the web site, please let me know.

 

Extract ID: 4828

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Robert Ojok
Page Number: 2004 10 10
Extract Date: 1976-79

Robert Ojok - Arusha School 1976-1979

I wonder if you can help me. I Studied at Arusha School between 1976 to 1979 and had a dear friend called Keith Ngulukulu who lived off Moshi road around the Uzunguni area. I would like to get in touch with him but have tried several times without number to locate him. Can you be of any help?

He was my first best friend and I would truly like to get in touch with him. Thank you

Robert Ojok

Best thing I can do is add your email to the web site, in the off chance that someone who knows Keith might see it. Any idea what Keith might be doing now? I'm in Arusha next week, but I guess the chance of bumping into him is very small.

Extract ID: 4872

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Sarah C Slater ( nee Burnett )
Page Number: 2004 10 24
Extract Date: 1958-1963

Sarah Burnett - Arusha School 1958-1963

I was @ arusha school during the years above.

My parents are Joan & George Burnett. My father was an entymologist, & worked @ the Colonial (Tropical) Pesticides Reseach Institute.

My brother Patrick & sister Victoria were also @ the school.

I think I was in the same class as Vanessa Pope, Elizabeth Cashin, Rosemary Purchase, Geraldine Swynnerton, John Bovennizer, Emile Karafiat, Pamela Carter & Joyce Thompson, Huw Jones, Diana Yeo.

I think Sandro Legnani was in the same class as my brother.

Does anybody remember the Beaumont family who farmed @ Sharok?

Or the McPhillips, an Irish family of 10 children who's mother was a doctor at Meru Hospital?

I remember BL Jones & family well, & Miss Jenkins & Mrs Papadopoulos amongst others.

My parents kept in touch with Paddy Purchase, father of Rosemary, Nigel & Melody & Doug & Margaret Yeo whio were neighbours & colleagues of my father.

My Mum is very ill now. I would love to be able to pass on news to her. She was an artist & used to run art classes on our lawn. Her & my father were very active in the Little Theatre, Arusha. He used to build the sets & she would paint them. I remember being Fairy Crystal Fountain in a production of Sleeping Beauty, in a wonderful white tutu made by a lady, I think Mrs. Bloom, who had been a profesional costume designer.

Does any one remember Narajan Singh, the grocer? I remember it being an Aladdin's cave of sweeties & the lovely kind staff.

My parents moved to Aberdeen Scotland, where they still are. I lived in Scotland until 2000, & now live in Suffolk, England. I would be absolutely delighted to hear from any-one from those idyllic childhood years.

Sarah C Slater ( nee Burnett )

Lots of memories, and names - thank you. Iíll be updating the database in the next week or so, and will include your email, which Iím sure will trigger some responses.

There have been some recent feedback emails mentioning some of your names. Did you see the email from Miriam Pope mentioning the Purchases and the Little Theatre. Iíve also just this week been sent a photo which includes Emil Karrafiat - it should be on the web site with the next update.

As for Naranjan Singh - did you see the clips on the site from Hatari

I heard that after independence he moved to India, and became very rich with a department store. His sons have been in England, and visited someone I know who had been in Arusha in the 1950ís.

Thank you so much for the fascinating information. The web-site is a wonderful resource & the work that goes into producing it is much appreciated.

I printed out some of the pictures of the School, Boma & Hospital ( where I was born) for my parents, which were pored over, & recognised by all the family. They were totally amazed, being internet 'unfriendly'!

Extract ID: 4899

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Page Number: 2004 10 26
Extract Date: 2004

Momella Lodge

In response to Mr. Bechky's comment about Momella Lodge.

I am happy to report that Momella Lodge today is a well maintained, functioning lodge. It has clean rooms, electricity, satellite TV, swimming pool and well maintained flower gardens. Whenever I am in Tanzania I try to visit Momella Lodge. Momella sits in the lee of beautiful Mt. Meru, majestic Mt. Kilimanjaro stands in the distance and groups of giraffe visit the Lodge daily; it is one of the more beautiful sites in Tanzania.

Thanks for you comment - Iíll add it to the web site so that it updates Mr. Bechky's comments (made in 1988 I think).

There are lots of new, and refurbished lodges now in the Momella area, and the the Arusha National Park is also one of my favourite places.

Extract ID: 4900

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Rashna Hackett (Jiwany)
Page Number: 2004 10 29

Rashna Jiwany - Arusha School 1974-1977

I was in Arusha School Between 1974 and 1977. I have very many fond memories of the school. I have been looking for Maxine Hayward Shott. The last I heard she was somewhere in Guernsey. Maxine's father was living up in the Usambara mountains (tea plantation).

Maxine I have never stopped thinking about you, if any one knows her whereabouts please, please get in touch.

Rashna Hackett (Jiwany)

Fantastic site!!! Keep up the good work

[then later the same day]

Wonderful site got all emotional. Looking for Maxine hayward shott. Please get in touch!!!! also please pass my email to Dipak and kirit Patel, i remember them very well.

Thanks

RASHNA

[then later]

From: Patel, Dipak

Sent: 15 November 2004

Subject: RE: nTZ web site and contacts

David,

Thank you for forwarding the information about Rashna. It's good to see the site growing. I remember Anoop Shah from my period at the school. Rashna I remember the name however can not put a face to the name. Would you be kind and forward this e-mail to Rashna. I will try and contact her directly. Keep the good work. I have some copies of the yearly school magazine. I plan to scan the pictures and the articles for you.

Thanks

Dipak

Extract ID: 4897

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Roger Hubbert
Page Number: 2004 10 30
Extract Date: 1960's

Do you have any leads?

David, when were you in Arusha?

I grew up in Tanganyike and used to live there. I went to school in Mbeya and Kongwa.

I worked for Geoff Lawrence-Brown, hunting and photo safaris and on the Hatari film. Even played polka with the duke! Was good friends with the Trappe famile and Max Morgan-Davies with whom I have lost contact.

Do you have any leads? Salaams!

Extract ID: 4893

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Geoff Jones
Page Number: 2004 11 12
Extract Date: 1954

Geoff Jones - Arusha School 1954?

I had a chat with Mark Morgan the other day and he mentioned that he had come across your site.

My name is Geoff Jones and I went out to Arusha in 1954 with my family. My father,Bryn had been appointed Chaplain Master to the school the rest of the family included my mother Pat, my sister Eira and young brother Huw.

The Headmaster at the time was Cyril Hamshere, other members of staff included H A Jones, Ď Lankyí Johnson and of course Bill ĎCorkyí Morgan. We had a wonderful life out there running pretty wild with the Morgan boys. My Dad became Head after Cyril Hamshere and stayed there until the end of 1969 when he returned to the U.K. to take up a Parish in South Wales.

I have had a great time looking through all the information on the site and will continue to do so. I was particularly interested to read about George Six who was a friend of Dadís. His son Eric is now a Neuro surgeon in Texas and we met up earlier this year at an Iringan re union. I will continue to be in touch.

Thanks for your email, and the "news".

You must have arrived in Arusha a year after me. What age were you then? I was at Arusha School 1953 (aged 7) to 1957. My father was the Rector at Christ Church, just across the river Themi from the school.

I think your father was followed by David Nettelbeck as the headmaster. He went on to write a thesis about the school, and Iím hoping to get a copy in the next week or two to add to the web site.

Do please have look through your old photo albums and see if you can find a few which will be interesting to visitors to the web site.

Extract ID: 4894

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Jan Ooms
Page Number: 2004 11 14
Extract Date: 1959

Jan Ooms - Arusha School 1959-60

Could you please forward my email to Julie Sundin.

Her brother was at same school as me and we all shared the same experience - Mrs Cruikshank's food.

Thank you

Jan Ooms

p.s. I also attended Arusha school primary about 1959 - 60

p.s. my father was the one (engineer with WD & ID in Mbulu) who was contacted by the Maasai when Michael Grizmeck crashed.

Iíve included Julie as a bcc to this email, and will leave it to her to contact you.

If you find more memories together, please send them on for inclusion on the web site!

And any more information about your father will also be appreciated. How long was he at Mbulu. He must have been traveling up in the Gol mountains at the time of the crash (near Malambo), or else the Maasai came a long way to find him! Iím told that wreckage from the crash can still be found in the Malambo area.

Did you know that there is a Hollywood film being made about the Grizmeckís at the moment?

Thank you David for email. I browsed through your site and forwarded some items to others who I know lived in Tanganyika/Tanzania. I seem to have become the contact for old boys of St Michael's school, Soni.

You might like to add this info to your website?

Dieter was at the same school and is trying to set up business in Tanzania. He may have provided you with his website? If you are looking for information about the German Colonial period, he knows where to get it.

The story of the plane crash from what my mother remembers. The Masaai came to my father's foreman who buried Michael and then came to tell my father who was in his office at Mbulu. My father then went to the crash site and presumably notified someone about it. Michael's body was reburied elsewhere.

My mother recalls the name Marsh from Arusha. Travelled out on the Warwick Castle in Feb 1958 and worked with WD & ID. Are you of that family?

We lived in Arusha and Mbulu for about 3 years and I spent a fair portion of that time without schooling and the little schooling I had was at Arusha.

I'm going out to Tanzania this January for a holiday -Dar, Arusha, Moshi, Karatu, Babati, Mbulu, Tanga, Pangani, Soni, Lushoto. Our Tanzania connection finished in 1983 when my father retired from there. He died 6 years ago in Scotland.

Extract ID: 4895

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: leilah
Page Number: 2004 11 15

1939 Africa guide book

I loved your siteÖ..very informative, easy to viewÖ nice presentationÖ..and most importantÖ I understood wht I read.

I just bought the Old guide Book of africaÖI have been enjoying it very much. The guide is from 1939Ö all the maps that are shown in the guide..i have compared them to the new ones, from nowÖIt is so cool, to be able to see all the changes that have been made to AfricaÖÖ

I paid 5 Us dollars, for this book, but its a history book, and to me, it is pricelessÖ

Extract ID: 4979

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Dieter Czurn
Page Number: 2004 11 15

Rolf Trappes sons

Just yesterday some friends from Momella came to visit me. They are the owners of the Hatari Lodge in Momella, the former house of Hardy KrŁger, who was an actor in the film Hatari with John Wayne.

They came with a nurse, who was taking care of their baby. She seems to work or have worked for Rolf Trappe jun.. Rolf and Richard Trappe are both living around Arusha. I met Ricky and his mother 3 years ago. At that time they lived near to the western slopes of Mount Meru. I know, that Ricky's health is quite bad, but Rolf seems to be quite ok.

I will try to find out both addresses for you or at least where to find them. I will also come to Tanzania in January. Maybe I will have time to meet them.

The Trappes belonged to our best friends in Tanzania. My father even knew Mrs. Margarethe Trappe, the famous hunter, very well. He came to Tanzania in 1933. We went to Momella many times and Rolf and Ricky visited the same school in the Usambara Mountains ( where I was born and where I grew up ) as we did.

I have attached a photo for you, showing the Trappes. It was my first school day in Soni ( 1963 )

From left to right:

Ricky Trappe, Rolf Trappe( Putschi ), my brother Mani, me and Emil Karafiat, the cousin of the Trappes.

Rolf Trappe sen. and Emil's mother were brother and sister-- both children of Margarethe Trappe.

Kindest regards,

Dieter Czurn

Many thanks for the email, and for the great photo.

I guess it was Jorg and Marlies who came to visit you. I met them also last week at WTM in London, and we had been in email contact before that sharing historical information about the Momella area and the Trappe family, and the making of Hatari. They were looking forward to finding the book about Momella which should have been waiting for them in Germany.

You may deduce from this that itís just me behind the nTZ.info web site, and that I am based in England. I managed a trip to Arusha in October, but I think that you will be back before me.

If you are in contact with Rolf and Richard Trappe could you please put them in contact with A M Hausheer-Hiltpold. (He emailed me in March looking for information about them).

Thanks for your help

And do please send any more photos or stories which you think will contribute to the site.

Extract ID: 4892

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Mattias Bengtsson
Page Number: 2004 11 16
Extract Date: 1960's?

Julie Sundin

Cheers!

I took a look at this page

...and found Julie Sundin's comment. Amazing, one of the few girls i remember by name from that time (i was secretly in love with You!). I remeber Your brother Graham even better, and i recall You were from Newcastle (or Glasgow)?? I am pretty sure it was Newcastle..

Great times at St Constatine's where i remember Hitesh V Patel to be my best friend there. I have, so far, never returned to Arusha, but one day i will. I work now i Stockholm, Sweden. And got my older brother here as well,

i had Mr Ramsey, Miss Hewsick, Mr De Muro (what an idiot - however he was right that i would never be able to learn French).

I recall that my brother had Mr Gregory, and if memory serves me right, so did Julie ;-)

Somewhere in the attic of my parents house, there is bound to be a memory of St Constantines, a bunch of "stars" that i got representing myself and "Athens".

Best wishes to you all who went there!!

Mattias

Thanks for the email. I've put Julie's address in the bcc of this reply, and maybe she will get in touch with you!

And thanks for your recollections from Arusha - what dates were these?

Extract ID: 4896

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Chris Wilson
Page Number: 2004 11 19
Extract Date: 1940's

Researching my Grandparents

I am writing with reference to your excellent web-site.

I am currently researching my Grandparents life story which is tied into East Africa.

My grandmother, MARGARETHE HUGHAN (Maiden name PLIVA, First Married name Dunn) lived with Dermot John Dunn one of the main developers of the Iringa Highway in the late 1940's. They lived in Arusha and mother was actually born in Mwanza.

My step-Grandfather, James HUGHAN was one of the main engineers during the construction of the highway. He actually controlled the workforce and heavy equipment at the head of the route through the wild.

He later went on to help in the construction of the Ruvu Water Works near Dar-e Salaam.

I have only laid out a very brief outline of the facts, but I wondered if you would have any records or information relating to their time in Africa. If you require any further details I would be glad to help.

I do hope that you can help, my Grandparents are now 92 and 86 and their time in Africa was a highlight of their lives.

Many, many thanks.

Yours Sincerely,

G T WILSON

Extract ID: 4980

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Jens Stark
Page Number: 2004 11 28

Hatari update

Hi !

I just found your impressive web site - after researching Hatari! on the Internet. A couple of hours of my life spent on it - and it was a marvellous trip !

While passing through Arusha on a tour from Namibia to Kenya, I looked for traces of the movie. Now I learned that :

- Safari Hotel is no longer

- The lodge is still somewhat visitable

- The clock tower is still there ! :)

Is there anything I did not see ? Worth travelling to Arusha for ? (Which sounds like a good idea anyhow...)

Best,

Jens Stark

Germany

I was in Arusha in October, and of course the clock tower is still there Ė and it even has street lighting at night.

The Safari Hotel has now re-opened, but it is owned by the Lutheran Church, and it is a dry establishment, so the bar is no more.

Momella lodge is, as you say, existing just, but the good news is that a new lodge has opened nearby. Hatari Lodge is based on what was Ol Donyo Roc Lodge. Details at http://www.hatarilodge.com/en/index.html I understand that the interior design is fantastic, and the location in the Arusha National Park makes it well worth the visit. The ANP is one of my favourite places.

Hope you have a chance to get back to Arusha Ė and let me know what you find.

Extract ID: 4967

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Jim Pirie
Page Number: 2004 12 17
Extract Date: 1947-1952

Jim Pirie - Arusha School 1947-1952

My name is Jim Pirie, and I was at Arusha School from 1947-1952, before going to Kongwa.

I remember you from Olmalog, My Dad who worked at Riddoch Motors in Arusha, was a friend

of both David Read and Piet Hugo.

I have been trying to contact as many old school friends as I can. . .

Extract ID: 4965

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Extract Author: Anoop Nathwani
Page Number: 2004 12 20
Extract Date: 20 Dec 2004

The kobe (tortoise)

hello

i have already written a few words dates in february 2004

i was in Arusha School btn the years 1984-1989 and now that i m residing in the uk...i mis those lovely days and that lovely town too that i m always and will always be associated with

pls do find the attached photo of the kobe that one of my cousin who stays in arusha took it for me

when ever i get the chance to go to east africa i make a point to go ans visit the school

how it has changed those lovely old tress been cut down...but still it brings the good old times i had

if ther is anyone during those times pls do pass them my email.

thanking you in advance

Anoop

Extract ID: 4964

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nTZ Feedback, 2004
Page Number: 2004 12 30
Extract Date: 1955-58

Eric Six - Arusha School 1955 - 1958

My name is Eric Six, Geoff Jones gave me your website, and it was fascinating to read about folks about whom I had not thought in years, surprisingly I was more familiar with the adult names than fellow students. I attended Arusha 1955 to 1958, then went on to Iringa, where I stayed till it closed in1963. There were only a handful that saw the entire life of StM & StG. I completed High School at Prince of Wales in Nairobi.

For those that knew me in school it comes as a surprise that I eventually became a Neurosurgeon, as I have to confess being a fairly lousy student, being more familiar with the tacky, and cane or cricket bat (if you crossed HA Jones); than with prizes in the school magazine. I too was brought up in the bush, in Kiru Valley about 100 miles from Arusha on the way to Babati.( David you were familiar with North Lewis, they lived about 25 miles from us off the Singida road.) Hunting was a way of life on the farm, but after doing that much hunting as a youth, I shoot only with a camera now.

David, I noticed that Elizabeth Palfry also lives in Texas---- I would appreciate you giving her my web address if she would like to write. I am familiar with her Dad, through my parents of course. Funnily enough I also knew Pete Hugo, and a number of the farmers from the Olmolog area.

I was sitting here trying to recall the names of classmates from 50 years ago with little success.

Geoff Jones (BLs son),

Corky Morgan {Father's namesake the old man liked to pull on your ears.},

Gerald Hunwick, {TFA}

John Cashin {PWD},

Clara De Liva,

Paul Marsh,

David Ulyate {farm},

Leslie Hague {The Beehive Restaurant}

Bizarrely I cannot recall but the one girl!

(Fritz Jacobs, Erik Larsen.Klaus Gaitja, Alex Zikakis, Hannes Matasen, Ivo Santi Barry Jones Louis van Royen Kevin Legrange were on either side of us) I am told that George Angelides still lives in Arusha and has a great reputation as a hunter guide.

Do you remember that little dog of Hamshire's, the miserable devil loved to chase us, I happened to be amongst those she caught and got bitten by, I still have the scar..

Sorry about all the parentheses but saves a whole lot of explaining.

After independence my Dad built a number of hotels in Tanzania ,amongst them Lobo lodge, Ngorongoro crater lodge ( the hotel on the rim just before getting to the original rondavels) and rebuilt the hotel on manyara escarpment, those all happened in the late 60's. They also managed Hotels in Zanzibar, and Dar-- the New Africa and Kilimanjaro being better known.

Enough from me. Please remember to pass my address to Elizabeth.

Dear Eric,

I am just catching up with things after Christmas, and realise that I didnít reply to your email from 30 November. However, I was away in Zambia for most of the month of December.

By bcc I am copying Elizabeth Palfry with your email, and shall leave it to her to get in touch with you.

Thanks for all your memories of Arusha and Tanzania. If you ever have time to write more, do please keep in touch. I hope to have your email up on the web site in the next few days. You will also be interested in a History of Arusha School (up to 1971) which will be available in full. I found it a fascinating read, and help me to understand some of the things that happened at the school, which made no sense to me back in 1953-57.

You mention the North-Lewisís. I think that when we left Arusha in 1957 we gave them one of our dogs, which within a few weeks was eaten by a leopard!

Did you find the photo, probably of their home, at http://www.ntz.info/gen/n00452.html#04078. I seem to remember on that trip that a snake was found under our car, and it had to be shot before we could leave!

You mention Paul Marsh Ė my brother!

Thanks again for you memories Ė keep them coming

Extract ID: 4962
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